From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding use-package to core Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:54:16 +0200 Message-ID: <83cz9pk5fb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fsemjs7v.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edu5izi9.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5475"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 02:02:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oukLh-0001E1-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 02:02:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouinq-00084T-7t; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouifF-0002SL-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:14:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouZuY-0007qg-VY; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:54:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=sUv1iCN87eIeoQBS/ERj12hlHcfTob4wJkdDeSLbf9w=; b=rcC+AAC0D77MdGFZSdcA iv/AJUOaErqBQ74C1/fQXqAEUu/RXe77Omvvld1BnY2z3LN1s8A9HNbiJ86+imc4z2gPUIn+xMZdT q5ZYFlQ8o4zJmoeI4oQ529FOLVG/LSz91I9VUk5rWljDKunDA8N+iUzScrhDnAugRPtM9URUWG0La 0MSlliwUbes56/BQEsCoagrYu3Y2YtcW0Y+RtmqWG4KuRgKZv8Pn2kDA6AUDUcW8tgHRyUvEE/JcQ cgzI4du7NI15Xlq7k41QzT6D75z6UYCmjraViD1Gs4wFvhOmspjPXFkBS2YDSgWtStAhOqRD8ViUL H1nfCtU03qAMsQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouZuX-0003kV-Lq; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:54:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: (xenodasein@tutanota.de) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299806 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:52:50 +0100 (CET) > From: xenodasein@tutanota.de > Cc: "xenodasein--- viaEmacs development discussions." , > eliz@gnu.org > > My whole complaint is that this is not happening, so the trend here > should be reducing lines of code, but opposite is happening.  This > not a good direction. You are entitled to your opinions, but we disagree, and we have many years of experience to present as evidence. Given such stark differences of assumptions, opinions, and experience in Emacs development, I see no reason to keep arguing about this.