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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
Cc: arne_bab@web.de, comms@dabrev.com, allred.sean@gmail.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Consideration for Rust contributions in Emacs
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:06:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83cz75i3iu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnXXohD=iGhX4Ziu4noF8h7ZPCCHzLKtWPC-aCYkE+LJpZPxw@mail.gmail.com> (message from John Yates on Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:51:32 -0500)

> From: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:51:32 -0500
> Cc: Troy Hinckley <comms@dabrev.com>, Sean Allred <allred.sean@gmail.com>,
>  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 9:26 AM Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
> <arne_bab@web.de> wrote:
> >
> > There was a point about complexity: adding another language besides C
> > and elisp increases complexity for contributors and maintainers a lot.
> 
> Once upon a time, functions deemed performance critical were
> implemented within the C core.  Over time that impetus has
> diminished greatly.  I have observed large amounts of functionality
> migrate from C to lisp.  Native compilation can only have reinforced
> that evolution.
> 
> The net effect has been to reduce the need for most emacs developers
> ever to need to work in any language other than lisp.

Quite a few new features are still being implemented in C.  Consider
just the recent innovations: native-compilation, tree-sitter, support
for XInput2 and touch devices, to name just a few.

Moreover, familiarity with the internals implemented in C is IME quite
necessary even for Emacs developers who almost never touch that layer.

So the above is true only up to a point.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <f2ee2f1d-332f-4707-bd9e-23444c34749f@Spark>
2023-01-21 22:48 ` Consideration for Rust contributions in Emacs Troy Hinckley
2023-01-22  7:44   ` Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2023-01-22 11:05   ` Daniel Martín
2023-01-22 14:04     ` Po Lu
2023-01-22 23:16       ` Troy Hinckley
2023-01-23  5:55         ` Po Lu
2023-01-24  3:49         ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-24  3:52     ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-24  6:52       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-01-23  2:00   ` Sean Allred
2023-01-23  3:37     ` Troy Hinckley
2023-01-23 12:25       ` Po Lu
2023-01-24  2:24         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-01-24  2:47           ` Etienne Prud'homme
2023-01-24  2:49           ` Po Lu
2023-04-11 12:39         ` Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2023-04-11 18:23           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-04-15  3:36             ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-15  3:40               ` Po Lu
2023-04-15  7:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12  0:36           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-12  4:59             ` tomas
2023-04-12 11:26           ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-13  1:02           ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-13  5:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13  8:23               ` Po Lu
2023-04-15 23:27             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-16  0:11               ` Po Lu
2023-04-17  2:55                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-23 13:21       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-01-23 16:51         ` John Yates
2023-01-23 17:06           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-23 18:22             ` John Yates
2023-01-23 19:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-23 19:44                 ` Bob Rogers
2023-01-23 19:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-23 20:08                     ` Bob Rogers
2023-01-23 19:22               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-01-23 23:52               ` Po Lu
2023-01-24  0:45         ` Po Lu
2023-01-23  7:32     ` Robert Pluim

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