From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
Cc: dsmasterson@gmail.com, arne_bab@web.de, ams@gnu.org,
luangruo@yahoo.com, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:14:11 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83cz1q75do.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03bef840fc28d46a2ffbf9c94c18a3cbf96de08f.camel@yandex.ru> (message from Konstantin Kharlamov on Tue, 20 Jun 2023 00:29:10 +0300)
> From: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
> Cc: arne_bab@web.de, ams@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, philipk@posteo.net,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 00:29:10 +0300
>
> > Practical suggestions for changes that would make it easier are
> > welcome, but they must not make the lives of the current developers
> > significantly harder.
>
> For starters I would be happy if at least the section about submitting patches
> was reformatted into two sections. My last email explaining that no information
> will be lost in such reformat¹ was unanswered, so I don't know what is the
> current state of this discussion.
>
> 1: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-06/msg00506.html
I already said I didn't think this was a good idea, and explained why
I thought so.
In any case, that section hardly has any bearing on the main issue at
hand: how to make it easier for people to contribute. I explained
that as well.
I'd appreciate if this seasonal "what's wrong with Emacs
contributions" discussion would either switch to discussing some
innovative and useful ideas for how to make it easier for
contributors, or just died if there are no such ideas yet.
Reiterating the same claims and the same arguments doesn't sound like
a good use of our time and bandwidth.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-20 11:14 UTC|newest]
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2023-06-16 11:20 Android port of Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 13:03 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 13:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 15:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 16:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 19:34 ` Bob Rogers
2023-06-16 23:46 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-17 0:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 6:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 9:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-17 13:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 16:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 18:11 ` contributing to Emacs Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 18:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 19:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 22:25 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 22:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:53 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:25 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:07 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:21 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:00 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-18 13:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-18 22:46 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:18 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 10:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 10:15 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-23 6:49 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 15:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-25 7:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-25 11:32 ` Setting 'vc-default-patch-addressee' in .dir-locals.el Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 12:13 ` contributing to Emacs Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 14:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 18:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 19:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 20:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 6:05 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 18:07 ` David Masterson
2023-06-19 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 21:29 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 22:49 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-06-20 15:45 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-20 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 16:32 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-06-20 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 19:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 1:44 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-24 3:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-24 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-25 16:41 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-25 23:31 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-26 16:47 ` Ian Kelling
2023-06-27 11:08 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-06-27 13:52 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-28 4:33 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-29 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-03 2:32 ` Björn Bidar
2023-07-03 4:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-07-05 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-04 1:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-05 13:19 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-07-09 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-27 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-28 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 16:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-20 16:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 22:47 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 1:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:24 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 7:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-21 0:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-21 4:13 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 4:23 ` David Masterson
2023-06-23 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-23 2:28 ` Po Lu
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:34 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 8:58 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 0:50 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 3:39 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-22 1:56 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-22 2:23 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 7:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-22 7:59 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 8:38 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-20 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 21:44 ` chad
2023-06-18 9:26 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 8:59 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 9:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:56 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:13 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:44 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:14 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:54 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 12:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 15:20 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:54 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 11:11 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:28 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 13:02 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 13:32 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:50 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:12 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:09 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:29 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:55 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:33 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:30 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-23 6:51 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-23 7:06 ` Po Lu
2023-06-23 7:14 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-23 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:21 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 12:36 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 16:17 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-25 7:39 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-18 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:19 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:50 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 15:49 ` Android port of Emacs Thomas Fitzsimmons
2023-06-16 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 23:45 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 21:19 ` chad
2023-06-17 0:11 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 6:38 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 7:08 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 7:41 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 9:36 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-17 9:57 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 7:33 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-30 22:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-17 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 6:57 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 7:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 7:33 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 7:54 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 8:02 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 16:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 0:36 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-19 8:22 ` Po Lu
2023-06-19 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 1:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 1:24 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 2:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-06-20 13:29 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 22:49 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-23 0:22 ` Po Lu
2023-06-23 7:37 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-23 8:52 ` Po Lu
2023-06-26 15:18 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-27 0:39 ` Po Lu
2023-07-01 14:13 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-24 12:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-06-24 13:01 ` Po Lu
2023-06-24 13:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2023-06-25 2:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-06-25 4:04 ` Po Lu
2023-07-01 19:02 ` Spencer Baugh
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2023-07-02 12:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-02 12:59 ` Po Lu
2023-07-02 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-13 13:54 ` Gregory Heytings
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2023-06-25 5:10 ` Jean Louis
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2023-06-30 4:57 ` Jean Louis
2023-06-30 5:12 ` Po Lu
2023-07-04 12:27 ` Jean Louis
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2023-06-23 12:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
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2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
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