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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 08:18:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83cz14guz3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ur0pkbzve@gentoo.org> (message from Ulrich Mueller on Thu, 06 Jul 2023 21:31:49 +0200)

> From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
> Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 21:31:49 +0200
> 
> >>>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > K is not a good idea, for 2 reasons:
> 
> >   . the KOI8 family includes 3 encodings, not 1
> >   . U in koi8-u stands for "Ukraine", so replacing it with K will
> >     probably be frowned upon
> 
> The K (for all KOI8 variants) was actually suggested by a person from
> Ukraine, back in 2020:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-08/msg01010.html

That's one person...

> > How about using У instead?  (Assuming using non-ASCII works there; the
> > code seems to allow that.)
> 
> I've just tested a patch with current master, and for me the У works
> both in an X frame ("У" in the mode line), in a text terminal under X
> ("UUУ") and in the Linux console ("UUУ").
> 
> Can we assume that users have the necessary fonts installed?

In Ukraine? most probably.

Did that character on a GUI frame need a non-default font, or was it
supported by the default font.  I'd expect the Cyrillic script to be
supported by the fonts people use as the default in Emacs.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-07  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-23 11:46 Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-23 15:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-23 16:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 18:24     ` Paul Eggert
2020-08-23 18:53       ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-23 18:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 18:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 19:13           ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-23 19:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 21:23               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-24  7:06                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-24 14:30                   ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 11:17                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-24 14:36                   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-24 15:23                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-24 16:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-07-05 10:08                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-05 11:41                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05 13:04                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-05 13:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05 21:50                               ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-05 22:11                                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-06  8:51                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06  5:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06  8:47                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06  9:20                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06  9:46                                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06 12:34                                         ` Po Lu
2023-07-06 12:32                                     ` Po Lu
2023-07-06 12:31                                 ` Po Lu
2023-07-06 13:02                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-06 13:08                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06 17:37                                     ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-06 18:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 18:44                                       ` Ulrich Müller
2023-07-06 19:01                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 19:31                                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07  5:18                                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-07-07  5:48                                               ` Ulrich Müller
2023-07-07  6:16                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07  6:41                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07  7:38                                                     ` Po Lu
2023-07-07  9:44                                                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 10:21                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 10:42                                                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 12:04                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 13:01                                                               ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 13:38                                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 12:01                                                         ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 12:38                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-07 13:37                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 13:45                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-07 12:58                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08  8:49                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 15:27                                                   ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-08 15:38                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 16:21                                                       ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-08 16:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 16:57                                                           ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-08 18:21                                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-08 21:31                                                           ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-09  9:22                                                       ` Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap (was: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?) Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-09  9:57                                                         ` Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap Po Lu
2023-07-13  2:04                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-13  4:27                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-07-13 22:07                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-14  5:05                                                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-14  6:57                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-15  2:10                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-15  2:38                                                                   ` Po Lu
2023-07-15  5:18                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-07-15  5:50                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-07-15 15:22                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-17  2:22                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-17  5:26                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-17  2:32                                                                     ` Po Lu
2023-07-16  2:19                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-09 11:35                                                         ` Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap (was: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?) Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07  0:19                                     ` Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Po Lu
2023-07-06 12:27                             ` Po Lu
2023-07-07  7:09                               ` UTF-32 (was: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?) Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07  7:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07  8:20                                   ` UTF-32 Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 10:16                                     ` UTF-32 Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 10:34                                       ` UTF-32 Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 12:49                                         ` UTF-32 Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 13:24                                           ` UTF-32 Andreas Schwab
2023-07-07 13:36                                           ` UTF-32 Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 14:06                                             ` UTF-32 Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05 12:49                         ` Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Stefan Monnier
2023-07-05 13:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 19:07                           ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-08-23 19:47             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-24 18:35     ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-24 18:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-25 18:59         ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-25 19:26           ` Eli Zaretskii

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