From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.]
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:56:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83c0f91b-21ff-2514-d24a-5b6104ef012b@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lh5bevu9.fsf@gmail.com>
On 03/21/2016 04:42 PM, Vitalie Spinu wrote:
>> """
>> Instead, if you want to know what indentation an inner mode would return if
>> STRING-BEFORE was before it, insert that string into the buffer (while
>> inhibiting undo history). Call the indentation function, then remove the string.
>> """
>
> Inner mode might decide to operate on string directly, or put stuff in a temp
> buffer, work on last line only, or simply ignore it.
Yes, each major mode would have to make all of these choices.
Why burden them with that concern? Wouldn't that become a part of the
same problem that you yourself mentioned, "teaching modes about
multi-modes"?
> Why to hard-wire the usage
> of STRING-BEFORE so badly?
What hard-wiring?
STRING-BEFORE is not a tangible part of my proposal. There's no API
change tied to it.
> My gut feeling is to avoid modifying buffer context in indentation engine at all
> costs.
Why? That's worked out okay for me.
Alternatively, you can create a temp buffer each time, compose pieces of
inner mode text in it, and call the indentation function. Again, in
multi-mode code.
> In the future, if performance with temp buffers will be a real issue, we
> can add more low level functions for fast operation on string to do some common
> parsing tasks. We can even extend parse-ppss to deal with BEFORE-STRING.
Performance is a distant concern, complexity is the immediate one. If
modifying buffers turns out to be a problem, then we can do all the
stuff you mention above.
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2016-03-14 15:16 ` Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.] Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14 17:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-14 20:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-19 22:51 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-20 2:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 12:15 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-20 15:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 1:05 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 5:05 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 7:13 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-21 12:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:13 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 16:42 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 18:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 19:16 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 20:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-21 20:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 21:03 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-21 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:45 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 22:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-22 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 18:17 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 1:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-23 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 18:26 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 2:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 10:56 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 11:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 12:39 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-23 21:51 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-24 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-21 11:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 5:08 ` [Patch] hard-widen-limits [was Re: Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.]] Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 12:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 12:54 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:14 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:33 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 17:16 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 19:18 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 3:17 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 9:57 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 10:05 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 11:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 16:28 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 19:36 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 11:41 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 12:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 12:41 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-29 21:43 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-22 14:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-24 7:22 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 7:28 ` Achim Gratz
2016-04-24 11:33 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 13:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-24 16:11 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 16:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-24 16:41 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 16:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-24 18:01 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-24 19:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-28 13:29 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-04-30 14:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 20:08 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-22 22:45 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 11:47 ` Syntax tables for multiple modes [was: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.] Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 12:40 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 13:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 14:20 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 14:42 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 14:56 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2016-03-21 16:52 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 21:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-03 23:34 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-21 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 14:31 ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-21 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 17:15 ` Andreas Röhler
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