From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Strange message from "bzr pull" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:16:42 +0200 Message-ID: <83bphhedsl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877hs5ogv8.fsf@red-bean.com> <83my11ejmr.fsf@gnu.org> <83ljgleiir.fsf@gnu.org> <87y6klo9zz.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262117776 20054 80.91.229.12 (29 Dec 2009 20:16:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 29 21:16:09 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NPiTx-0005ZD-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:15:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54640 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPiTx-00037X-Sp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:15:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPiSy-0002cQ-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:14:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPiSu-0002as-RY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:14:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41797 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPiSu-0002ai-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:14:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:37222) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NPiSu-000749-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:14:48 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KVF00A00K6S5E00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:14:19 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.222.44]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KVF007HTK7UM380@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:14:19 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87y6klo9zz.fsf@telefonica.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118975 Archived-At: > From: =C3=93scar_Fuentes > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:28:32 +0100 >=20 > BzrForEmacsDevs is not simple enough for people who have CVS > incorporated into their DNA. IMHO it lacks some clear explanation o= f the > new concepts (revisions, branches, merges, histories, divergence, e= tc) > so they can figure out what's going on, see most of the new > possibilities and ask to the "gurus" for advice using a discernible > language when they cannot decide among several options. Using a new > workflow without a sufficient understanding of the basic concepts m= ay > cause mistakes and frustration. But the basic concepts are common, more or less, to all modern VCSs. Revisions, branches, merges, histories -- all these exist even with CVS, and anyone who worked with a VCS in an organization probably knows what rebase and deliver mean already. What other concepts are new whose lack of understanding can prevent me from considering the pros and cons and cause me mistakes that will frustrate me? Mistakes can be done even with RCS, you know. > Maybe a pointer to some generic introduction to DVCS plus a > description of how Bazaar implements it would be okay (I don't know > any such decent introduction specific for Bazaar, though.) Whatever pointers you do have, please post them, even if they are not specific to Bazaar. Thanks.