From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RCS, again: another removed functionality: undo last-checkin Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:18:26 +0300 Message-ID: <83bncvm0y5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87oagx6tzz.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <55FF4026.2050004@yandex.ru> <83si68nu4i.fsf@gnu.org> <56000DEB.1000306@yandex.ru> <83si67n4ch.fsf@gnu.org> <5600373A.6090206@yandex.ru> <83oagvn1lz.fsf@gnu.org> <56003D57.2080102@yandex.ru> <83mvwfmviy.fsf@gnu.org> <56005B96.2090006@yandex.ru> <83h9mnmtwj.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpvjmgn4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442902727 10956 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2015 06:18:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 22 08:18:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZeGuR-00033T-Ub for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:18:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36872 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZeGuR-0005hc-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 02:18:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50447) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZeGuD-0005hM-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 02:18:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZeGuA-0004lt-M2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 02:18:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:53512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZeGuA-0004lN-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 02:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NV200D00E64FT00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:14:39 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NV200AMJEOEGR50@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:14:39 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87wpvjmgn4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190226 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:39:27 +0900 > > > The idea of the proposal, namely, call 'revert' when 'reset' followed > > by 'push' would fail, was to avoid the failure. > > Users prefer a "true" rollback for several reasons. I prefer it, too. But when the offending commit was already pushed, 'reset' is the only sane way. > The probability the DWIM results in "Do What I Didn't Mean" here is > way too high. If you want to do "revert" but call it "rollback", go > right ahead. But don't do "reset" sometimes and "revert" in others. I don't see why, but again, my steam for this argument is all but used.