From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another iteration on the Emacs website Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:30:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83bn9w6s46.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h9jpi890.fsf@petton.fr> <20151212001515.GD3192@boo.workgroup> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449905460 14852 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2015 07:31:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 07:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Random832 Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 12 08:30:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7edl-0001JB-QW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 08:30:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7edk-0008JR-VG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 02:30:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43023) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7edh-0008JL-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 02:30:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7ede-0004uX-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 02:30:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:42483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7ede-0004ts-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 02:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NZ800300HVD8W00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:27:34 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NZ80027YI1Y8010@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 09:27:34 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196160 Archived-At: > From: Random832 > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:14:18 -0500 > > Xue Fuqiao writes: > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > > >> [2] The only other projects of similar age which come to > >> (my) mind are the X Window System and the TeX familiy of > >> programs. > > > > Maybe you forgot some GNU projects, like Hurd, glibc, Bash, GCC, GDB, > > Octave, and Texinfo. > > Depends on what you mean by similar age. > > 1978 TeX > 1983 AMS-TeX > 1984 X > 1984 Emacs > 1985 LaTeX > 1986 GDB > 1987 GCC > 1988 glibc > 1989 Bash > 1990 Hurd > 1992 Octave ("conceived" 1988) Emacs started the GNU project, so it's a small wonder it predates any other GNU package. Also, first versions of GCC and GDB were written by Richard, which is another reason why they came after Emacs.