From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH PING] Honor 'SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH' when generating autoloads. Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 18:18:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83bn9fom56.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k2ph3mgx.fsf@gnu.org> <87io4lnkyz.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvtwoktg.fsf@gnu.org> <878u5gkakj.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8pwoesc.fsf@gnu.org> <87two3475d.fsf@gnu.org> <5665D6B9.4030309@cs.ucla.edu> <5665DAA1.2080208@cs.ucla.edu> <83k2o9t6t1.fsf@gnu.org> <56771D52.2070406@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuytp1au.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1txozu9.fsf@gnu.org> <567B0D81.2000106@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvt0o70j.fsf@gnu.org> <567B968C.6060305@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450973900 17210 80.91.229.3 (24 Dec 2015 16:18:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 24 17:18:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aC8ai-00054a-PX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:18:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60739 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC8ah-0001oc-Lt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:18:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC8ae-0001oV-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:18:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC8ab-0008EN-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:18:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC8ab-0008EJ-JK; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:18:05 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3066 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aC8aa-0005QV-UL; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:18:05 -0500 In-reply-to: <567B968C.6060305@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:54:04 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196763 Archived-At: > Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:54:04 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Some code out there that expects the value to be a string might become > > broken by such a change, I think. > > I doubt whether there is any such code that will break. It doesn't matter. Let's not make changes that gratuitously break backward compatibility. A fixed string is good enough to serve this use case, so no need to make it nil. > No code uses the variable within Emacs itself; I just checked. I plan on adding it to the bug report, where it was before a recent change to emacs-version. This information is sometimes very important when working on bugs. > We should also obsolete the variable, while we're at it. There's a comment to > that effect before the variable. Really, code should not be using > emacs-build-system. It's important information in some cases, and I don't plan to remove it any time soon, sorry.