From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: djcb@djcbsoftware.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Character folding in the pretest
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 19:45:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bn7wwerl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B38C2F.30006@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:36:47 -0800)
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:36:47 -0800
>
> On 02/04/2016 08:54 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Emacs is a multilingual environment, so any assumption that
> > the main language in every buffer, or even in most buffers, is likely
> > to be the locale's language will misfire.
>
> True, but although Emacs is designed to be language-agnostic when
> handling buffer text, that doesn't mean it should be designed to be
> language-agnostic when handling user input.
The user input in this case is a search string. A search string is
likely to use the language of the text being searched, not the
language of the user's locale. E.g., when I search Cyrillic text, I
will hardly ever use Hebrew, my locale language.
> As an English-speaker when I search Swedish texts by hand, I
> normally want to use English-like rules because English is what I
> know and I can't really read the Swedish anyway.
I'm not sure this is the use case we should cater to. We should
instead cater to users who search text they _can_ read.
> In English we tend to consider accents unimportant when searching
Amazingly enough, Unicode advises the same.
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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-03 0:31 Character folding in the pretest Per Starbäck
2016-02-03 6:34 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2016-02-03 8:00 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-03 10:54 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-03 15:57 ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-02-03 16:24 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-03 16:46 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-03 17:28 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-03 18:10 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-03 18:24 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-03 18:31 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-03 16:52 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-03 11:08 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-03 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-03 13:35 ` Nicolas Petton
2016-02-03 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-03 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03 15:55 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-02-03 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 13:41 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-02-06 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 15:09 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-02-06 18:38 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-06 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 1:06 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-03 16:54 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-03 17:01 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-03 21:08 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-03 22:32 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-03 22:52 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-03 23:50 ` Sacha Chua
2016-02-04 5:49 ` Ivan Andrus
2016-02-04 21:30 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-04 8:40 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-04 11:57 ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2016-02-04 15:18 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-04 15:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 16:36 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 16:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 17:05 ` Werner LEMBERG
2016-02-05 5:09 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-05 6:01 ` Werner LEMBERG
2016-02-05 6:36 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-05 7:15 ` Werner LEMBERG
2016-02-05 7:22 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-06 15:43 ` Rasmus
2016-02-06 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 15:09 ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-02-05 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 21:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-05 22:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 19:49 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-06 19:49 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-08 14:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-08 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 17:57 ` Werner LEMBERG
2016-02-08 19:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-08 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83oabrouwj.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-02-09 0:04 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1aT7CM-0005LM-9f@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-09 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-06 12:58 ` Rasmus
2016-02-04 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 19:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 19:52 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 17:27 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 18:18 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-04 19:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 20:06 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 20:40 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 20:56 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 21:16 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 20:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-04 20:59 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 20:23 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-04 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 17:31 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-04 23:05 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-06 9:37 ` Per Starbäck
2016-02-06 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 12:52 ` Rasmus
2016-02-06 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 14:24 ` Ken Brown
2016-02-06 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 17:36 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-04 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-02-04 19:25 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-04 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 17:26 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-02-05 8:08 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2016-02-04 21:32 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-08 14:12 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-03 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-03 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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