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* Re: Visit New File menu item
@ 2016-03-13 23:37 Angelo Graziosi
  2016-03-14  0:11 ` Drew Adams
  2016-03-14  3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Angelo Graziosi @ 2016-03-13 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs developers

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Also, such changes should be discussed more thoroughly, waiting for
> interested parties to chime in.  E.g., one problem with "New File" is
> that we don't actually enforce the "new" part -- you can visit an
> existing file via that menu item.  Not sure how important this nit is,
> but OTOH that single word "Visit" is also hardly so very important
> that we should rush making the change overnight.

Well said!

My opinion is that "New File" is wrong if linked to the sequence "C-x C-f".

Usually, I use "C-x C-f" both for loading ("visiting") an existing file 
in Emacs both to create a new file (not existing!).

Notice that other applications which have "New File" mean really a *new* 
(i.e. creating) file. Usually they have "C-N" for "New File" and "C-O" 
for "Open File". So using "New File" in Emacs seems misleading, unless 
you use a different key sequence for New/Open File.

Really I would remove the "Open File" item and would leave "Visit File" 
(without New), with the obvious key sequence "C-x C-f".

Why don't you like "Visit"? Why you want to follow others giving up the 
original tradition of Emacs?

Anyway this is only my opinion.

Ciao,
  Angelo.



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* Visit New File menu item
@ 2016-03-11 16:58 Phillip Lord
  2016-03-11 17:02 ` Joost Kremers
  2016-03-11 22:22 ` Nicolas Semrau
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Phillip Lord @ 2016-03-11 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel



Would anyone object to changing this menu item to "Open New File"?

Currently, we have

Visit New File
Open File
Open Directory
Insert File


It seems unnecessarily inconsistent.

Phil



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2016-03-11 17:02 ` Joost Kremers
2016-03-11 21:30   ` John Wiegley
2016-03-11 21:36     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-11 21:50     ` Drew Adams
2016-03-11 22:18       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 22:16     ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 22:22       ` Mathias Dahl
2016-03-12  6:59       ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-12 19:26     ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 21:23       ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 21:37         ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 21:41           ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 23:35             ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-13  3:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13  3:56               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13  4:00                 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13 16:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:02                     ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13 19:56                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-13 20:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 20:38                         ` Nicolas Semrau
2016-03-13  3:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
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