From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Visit New File menu item Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:37:36 +0200 Message-ID: <83bn6henlr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56E5F9C6.40305@alice.it> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457926707 16751 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2016 03:38:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 03:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Angelo Graziosi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 14 04:38:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1afJKo-0000cw-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 04:38:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38821 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afJKn-0006XC-LQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35911) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afJKa-0006Wy-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afJKX-0000dh-FZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afJKX-0000db-CJ; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1408 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1afJKW-0002MS-FZ; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:38:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <56E5F9C6.40305@alice.it> (message from Angelo Graziosi on Mon, 14 Mar 2016 00:37:42 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201672 Archived-At: > From: Angelo Graziosi > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 00:37:42 +0100 > > My opinion is that "New File" is wrong if linked to the sequence "C-x C-f". > > Usually, I use "C-x C-f" both for loading ("visiting") an existing file > in Emacs both to create a new file (not existing!). > > Notice that other applications which have "New File" mean really a *new* > (i.e. creating) file. Usually they have "C-N" for "New File" and "C-O" > for "Open File". So using "New File" in Emacs seems misleading, unless > you use a different key sequence for New/Open File. > > Really I would remove the "Open File" item and would leave "Visit File" > (without New), with the obvious key sequence "C-x C-f". We had that originally, but then the menu item was split in 2 (in Emacs 23): Open File insists on the file to exist, while Visit New File doesn't.