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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why wasn't the 25.3 release based on the then-head of the emacs-25 branch?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:48:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bmm7j3th.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c3dbffa-b56c-ec31-2fa9-0ca6dc757cd2@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:10:21 -0700)

> Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:10:21 -0700
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > it's naïve to assume
> > time frames of minutes for these activities, unless we want to give up
> > QA.
> 
> It's routine to do the kind of QA that you mention in minutes for projects 
> Emacs's size. We're not up to that now, but it's reasonable to make it a goal, 
> if this sort of thing is important to us.

With the right organization and equipment available at suitable SLA,
sure.  But we are very far from that point, IMO.

> At any rate the procedure could be streamlined considerably compared
> to what it was last time.

Indeed, working in that direction would be a good progress.  I don't
think we need to get the time down to minutes, though, as that would
probably require measures that are impractical in our conditions.

> We could try having a better relationship with Debian and one or two others, so 
> that the patches they consider to be security issues cause us to consider 
> issuing new versions quickly. And we could be more proactive in sending our 
> potential security patches to them early in our review process.

If someone could take that upon themselves, sure.

> > Are Debian and Fedora indeed enough?  What about Red Hat?
> 
> Fedora is Red Hat's early version, so we needn't worry about Red Hat separately.
> 
> > What about Arch Linux?
> 
> They wouldn't make my cut. Others of us might step up to be a liaison. openSUSE 
> is also a plausible candidate for that.

What do others think about the set of distros we should use?

> > given the sample of distributions, how does one
> > figure out which ones of them include a given Emacs changeset, in
> > which versions of Emacs, and since what time.
> 
> This info is all public now, at least for Debian and Red Hat.

OK, so it would be good to have the pointers in admin/ somewhere.

Thanks.



      reply	other threads:[~2017-09-18 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-14 20:30 Why wasn't the 25.3 release based on the then-head of the emacs-25 branch? Glenn Morris
2017-09-15  3:24 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-15  6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-15 21:26   ` Tim Cross
2017-09-16  7:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-15 23:39   ` Glenn Morris
2017-09-16  7:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 20:20       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-17  2:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-17  5:14           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-17 14:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-17 17:40               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-17 18:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-17 22:44                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-18 15:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-18 17:10                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-18 17:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]

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