From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Could we include diff and grep (etc.) executables on Windows? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:43:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83blt73m9c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d0dq5t09.fsf@gnu.org> <877e3yz939.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="18496"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 19 16:44:01 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5fb-0004eA-HF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:43:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46716 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5fa-00056y-7K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:43:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5ej-00053U-Gl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:43:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5ei-0006KC-VK; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3236 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5ei-0001GO-9E; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:43:04 -0500 In-reply-to: <877e3yz939.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes on Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:49:46 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242433 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:49:46 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Maybe streamlining the MSYS way to install Emacs is the easiest/best way > >> to solve this problem? > > > > Depends on what you mean by that (and what you mean when you say > > "MSYS"). In general, quite a few useful programs don't have native > > Windows ports in MSYS2 repository, so you will get MSYS ports instead, > > and that will cause subtle problems, similar to what happens when one > > mixes Cygwin programs with a native w32 Emacs. > > For the case of diff and grep MSYS2 has native binaries But that's about all, so it seems. There are no Coreutils, no Findutils, no Grep, no Sed, etc. > The real problem is that the MSYS2 approach would add some order of > magnitude to the complexity of packaging and publishing Emacs, so there > is no gain over "simply" adding the bare binaries to the current > packages, quite the contrary. That's another problem, yes.