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> From: Michael Welsh Duggan <mwd@md5i.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:54:11 -0400
> Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> I know that "emacs --daemon" creates a frame that isn't displayed.

No, that's the frame created by temacs during the build.  The daemon
simply doesn't delete it, unlike any other Emacs session.