From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 16:44:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83bl59ydrs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <01341bd6-b94b-4f94-1461-405e723142ad@yandex.ru> <8735qmjklm.fsf@localhost> <87ilzi86h7.fsf@posteo.net> <875yvh9anq.fsf@posteo.net> <83o899yjh2.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jxyhbn.fsf@gnu.org> <05217332-4d76-83a6-06a6-3ddae942dd12@yandex.ru> <83czppygiv.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35498"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 03 15:46:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mM9WR-00091H-Nb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 15:46:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40646 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM9WQ-0000XV-4F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 09:46:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54510) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM9V2-0007Mv-NY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 09:44:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM9V1-0004yl-VW; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 09:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2153 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM9Up-0005e7-Vq; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 09:44:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:26:41 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273795 Archived-At: > Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, > yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:26:41 +0300 > > What if we do introduce the "profiles" feature, *and* we change our > practice to alter the defaults more easily as well? Including radical, > mutinous ones, like indent-tabs-mode -> nil. Not all of them, of course, > but with more of an eye toward being useful for new users (violent > discussions about the default values will continue, but will sometimes > results in changes, too). > > And to avoid the problems with Emacs's default moving forward, we > introduce a profile called "Good Old Days" which the folks who prefer > things to generally stay the same, would enable, just once. Going > forward, every time we change some default, we would consider adding the > previous value to that profile. Or even do that automatically. This was discussed, but I don't think it flied. maybe it will one day, who knows? Of course, given a profile that becomes the default, the "good old days" counterpart of it is almost trivial to come up with.