From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 9b762c35a1: Add Sefirot to Omer counting Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 05:31:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83bkw6t8y2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1zcwq56.fsf@gnu.org> <20220509.075441.710349049819527507.enometh@meer.net> <83wneuuccs.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33155"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ecbrown@ericcbrown.com, enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 10 04:32:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noFfP-0008Tf-A9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 04:32:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43386 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noFfN-00062V-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 May 2022 22:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noFek-0005MG-8c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2022 22:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noFej-0008G5-CD; Mon, 09 May 2022 22:31:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=+JU6Zo4mMFPx8lCrr461vQBq5Y3cUL9l7ruPXBNslOM=; b=WFLoWlkCPQm4 uW7jq5vWNRU6malJeP1TKa64zYwR+51WdJyGpRpL4pViQj/InpaIH6nyD2CAyPrd4j4wMHeOPDHR4 orI+w07EUSGCYpJ2t/if1oJaH8zmgdvqFIWHQt0ExY4i2vS8sdyP3ytkqJ+j/bsxgtnkTWtIP/Xj9 Pa8ZVGV2eujMTiQoqpcBkMZAhvSr1JEaeboqblAweHin22BFOsG5d9e1oV0MLeE9V0cemcmDF3PGl CpMIhOWN48Jsalwe7mYfpoZCX9OM1QkVjht8pkmpiJVWHmPfIQKiRxGrYHTxPTuZIys0i5n1AXBXA xVGTP0YuRBo+aTbkxGM6WA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4113 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noFei-00038t-Fq; Mon, 09 May 2022 22:31:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 09 May 2022 19:20:09 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289567 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: ecbrown@ericcbrown.com, enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 09 May 2022 19:20:09 -0400 > > > > The biblical references for the Parashat HaShavua and its Haftorah are > > > definitely religious in nature. > > > And the Hebrew calendar itself isn't? > > It has to do with religion to some extent, but the crucial thing is > that it is a calendar. It consists of names of days. I think it consists of much more than that. > > The proposal was NOT to cite those texts in Emacs, the proposal was > > just to _name_ them. > > I think we're using the word "cite" with two different meanings, both > valid. We're talking about including in Emacs the names of certain biblical > texts, right? > > Where do we draw the line? > > The natural place would be between > (1) identifications/names of specific days, and > (2) specific things some groups customarily DO on specific named days. > The first is part of the calendar; the second is an adjunct used with > the calendar. That'd mean any holiday should be excluded, since holidays almost always are "specific things some groups customarily DO on specific named days". I think this is too radical a criterion.