From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:41:16 +0300 Message-ID: <83bkqsyckz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h70m19yv.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu4mm7kt.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87pmfa9k30.fsf@gnus.org> <83r0zqysyu.fsf@gnu.org> <877d1im5k3.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83h70myrrp.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0zqknrx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83ill0yfct.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2879"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, larsi@gnus.org, yandros@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 21:00:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQgE-0000V4-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:00:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38934 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQgD-0008NU-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 15:00:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQNX-000378-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41394) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQNW-0004dN-3t; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:41:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AvcdWopO/Zol5PhTpkg9Hqlsc8WRAHp3Z/7jFxavFiY=; b=EXLu9kox2nyT jBWYIp6HfwrR0Sf+3Fsvx+GiZGg2ZuuAys0hrvmIG7CwvbCFzrtXi+VavsfACO0EnRodtIrld3PjR KTpaAFuZWuD4fydcUuv7QcrsAU/iK6ojnqdb0eUwOppj5tXd51Fyv29+C+QcPvRfbXLMm2B51qKTg YT7icHCRQ78KciUCE/+fUT6JAoeUuPqWgouJTtGwGUhlzMjubYt0tUK/L6ilJbX3Ckh0h0T7vsLki M3ed0ARItfrnDUiV7MoHvOsCHDOvR3XzklDBUoimEk4QptjcC9yP4Mw80hYqaujMWdYEt6cUFEHxQ dGsRBRqwJShrhzMio67ilA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1486 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQNV-0002pa-Ar; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:41:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (tomas@tuxteam.de) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296790 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:17:53 +0200 > From: tomas@tuxteam.de > Cc: Rob Browning , larsi@gnus.org, yandros@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 08:41:22PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > [Full disclosure: evidently, none of what I write below matters, so > > feel free to ignore.] > > Now I think this is a bit unfair. You have a string opinion, and > I think it shhould be respected, but the others have, too. You misunderstood the intent. > > That's strange to hear. Even MS-Windows allows per-user variations of > > PATH and per-use environment variables. It is strange to learn that > > Debian doesn't. > > Note that this is only as far as the Debian packaging system is > concerned. Per-user you can have as many Emacsen installed as you > want -- the Debian packaging system doesn't know about them. Windows installers allow you to install into a directory of your choice, and some will even set PATH to point to there; if not, you can do it manually. > Alternatively, you can have a system-local install (going to > /usr/local) besides the Debian-installed one without them interfering > (that's the setup I use). I don't understand what that means. Do you mean that you can subvert the general non-support by Debian packages of several Emacs versions installed on the same system?