From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Brand new clojure support in Emacs ;-) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2023 15:20:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83bkei5dv3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87h6ontwfv.fsf@posteo.net> <835y4ucrz3.fsf@gnu.org> <831qficgin.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttsehwab.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87fs3x6ge7.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8cthmzl.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5u56atj.fsf@gmail.com> <875y4t69vq.fsf@gmail.com> <90ac490a-1d95-4704-b4f8-908b16861aec@app.fastmail.com> <87fs3v44wa.fsf@gmail.com> <14c0b906-966e-4090-93b4-eba75fbe0521@app.fastmail.com> <87bkei524b.fsf@gmail.com> <8734zu5oq9.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28160"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bozhidar@batsov.dev, danny@dfreeman.email, dmitry@gutov.dev, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 04 14:21:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qd8a5-00078n-Ta for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 14:21:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qd8Zl-00081v-81; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 08:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qd8Zf-0007xp-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 08:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qd8Ze-0007pR-Do; Mon, 04 Sep 2023 08:20:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=NwlCq6NSXRkgUdAFN5kqSFXeIid1OinA3WYwd0FJsh4=; b=E3gWS6wNj2+xzbidEZuS Vv6BunwmFMkvq4sH6Lvv2qpPTM/tAdqz/uThiHoV+ghnMcGpiC9o7Jj7EqUmVJTBtOmwcRcf1vFGZ HSvT9AExcVzyGCzi4xx0dQyfogXbaHydo9yog9SDdJYExl8EHPHuVnuGNVlf9icvMgByQfOEOTWwI cB02sxDlhlfzVj2YxIxlbq38kKbChUqTiQ5qzNPGdbBZQDz/W2v2HMSacwuF2JxhBAUSR3dJRYjm9 lJLa4LfgBBvJ16zfsS3lKZUclbcFnHw/kxQ+UCru5m6ljuP9Qi/LY2sn1pK5FYhzHupTcVsOQsI34 rBBPwwKn/yTabQ==; In-Reply-To: <8734zu5oq9.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28g?= =?utf-8?B?VMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Mon, 04 Sep 2023 09:25:50 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310071 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Cc: "Danny Freeman" , "Eli Zaretskii" , > "Dmitry Gutov" , "Richard Stallman" , > "Emacs Devel" > Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2023 09:25:50 +0100 > > "Bozhidar Batsov" writes: > > > What hostile manner? Do we need permission from you to start discussing > > Clojure editing facilities here > > > > You don't need my permission to do anything. But in my book it's good > > manners to try to get people involved in a conversation that might > > benefit from their presence. > > All I did when I started this thread was grab this message from Philip > Kaludercic: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-08/msg00968.html > > I hit "reply to all" and changed the subject line for clarity. By then, > you had already made very clear to Eli and others that your Clojure > modes would not come to GNU Emacs. Your opening "I've said a million > times" email didn't exactly sound exactly very chummy either: > > I've been maintaining almost all of the Clojure dev tooling for > Emacs for over a decade, so I do believe that by now I know what I'm > doing and how I want to do things. I've said a million times by now > that I don't want contributors to have to deal with copyright > agreements. > > In: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-08/msg01127.html > > So excuse me for not issuing a special scented invitation to His > Highness, but I did believe he was above Being Bothered with GNU > trivialities. > > > One day perhaps you'll learn that things > > "good manners"?? "one day perhaps you'll learn"??? You can't make this > stuff up. Send me your youtube video on good manners, too? Guys, please cool down. There's no reason to discuss each other's manners, once the misunderstandings have been cleared. Let's move on to cooperate in making a better Emacs, okay?