From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Instead of pcase Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 09:41:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83bkbro6e4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fs15d0uv.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83edgppki9.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyw9cpj9.fsf@dataswamp.org> <834jhkq1jp.fsf@gnu.org> <871qcodcmt.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83ttpko9qg.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0knbmrk.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875y1zle6y.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25832"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 18 08:41:54 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r4Fxi-0006Wa-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:41:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4FxM-0005Yn-6s; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 02:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4FxI-0005YT-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 02:41:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4FxI-00087G-3f; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 02:41:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=bOph22p9LsiMndeEmCBqIkxD2bgCgGATY0YcIw/JYhY=; b=Ui5o7DCyqEUi O7bv0cLWYER1C/OVraeXTJ2vCtp+uoKhDWk+WNPMSdvxVrup3apv6L7BtHn1sumuKn10QkLUnHPIQ 95IPCSdVuK64cRSpc31I2iUAQJZ3V7V/ErLEsOibsTqFcelBkZZi7JzdQXgwE4L0+xQ1DOknML7/u 95yGasxQI8xCknqjhzF6/T8hwPEQqkRf9p+XBwmTzxw4M0HZ9Hq3cnyInt+kZJr9Amzta4W9OH2L7 pyZL5kHy/Hr3XurzeWtgb1GJqPVo4i7cPhgpIR0xVpUQbtWvZ60C2HEZVQp8ALjlxvjbp4grdn3tP 1PcJ3OyutPEBWyqPQ4STrg==; In-Reply-To: <875y1zle6y.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 18 Nov 2023 15:21:09 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312896 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 15:21:09 +0800 > > Emanuel Berg writes: > > > Bottom line, not using advanced libraries and instead rely on > > some basic building block Elisp is a total bogus idea, sorry. > > That's merely your inference, so long as "advanced libraries" refers to > pcase. I don't expect anything short of obstinately maintaining that > it's true from you, but bear in mind that many others disagree, and, > above all, the subject at hand is the design of a construct that enables > pcase to be replaced without forsaking conciseness. A new construct. > Not constraining ourselves to "some basic building block Elisp." > > With these conversations the game is frequently not worth the candle, > because of bitter but inane comments like yours. Po Lu, if you don't have anything constructive or useful to say about someone else's comments, except that you don't like them, please consider saying nothing at all. There's no need to rebuke each and every opinion contrary to yours, just to say once again that you disagree. Your opinions in this matter were voiced and noted, so no need to reiterate them, let alone in a rude way that includes personal attacks. Let's please try to lower the noise level here, not raise it.