From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Time to drop the pre-dump phase in the build? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 22:30:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83a9f3bmw0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140110191530.5772E38019B@snark.thyrsus.com> <20140110152035.2889f2d0@anarchist.wooz.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389385849 11791 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2014 20:30:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 20:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Barry Warsaw Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 21:30:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1ijF-0007Lx-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:30:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58936 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1ijE-0004dx-Tk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:30:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1ij1-0004Wy-3g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:30:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iiv-0002TW-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:30:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iiu-0002T7-OO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZ700200CY2VG00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 22:30:31 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZ70023NCYUGL80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 22:30:31 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20140110152035.2889f2d0@anarchist.wooz.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168045 Archived-At: > From: Barry Warsaw > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:20:35 -0500 > > Interestingly enough albeit tangential, I haven't even byte-compiled my > personal elisp files in *decades*. I just load them from source Did you measure performance? Byte-compiled code is about 2 times faster. > Performance (startup or runtime) hasn't been a problem since I made > the switch. If you are used to slightly slower operation, you will in time stop paying attention to the slow-down. E.g., I run an unoptimized build of Emacs most of the time (due to better debugging opportunities), and think it is fast enough -- until I fire up an optimized build and am amazed by its speed.