From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Repo cpnversion progress report Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 10:40:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83a9eb5ipz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140130195557.GA8405@thyrsus.com> <83iot16u66.fsf@gnu.org> <20140130214201.GA9204@thyrsus.com> <83ha8k7fp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87iot0f481.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <20140131181612.GA18170@thyrsus.com> <52EBFD17.1050006@cs.ucla.edu> <20140131210718.GA19192@thyrsus.com> <52EC3A5D.60404@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391244053 29465 80.91.229.3 (1 Feb 2014 08:40:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 08:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 01 09:41:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W9W8H-0001x0-TY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 09:40:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60728 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9W8H-0003kI-Dp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 03:40:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56433) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9W89-0003k8-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 03:40:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9W83-0002qx-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 03:40:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:49176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9W83-0002qi-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 03:40:43 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0B000006QA4D00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 10:40:41 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0B00N0W6RT2A80@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 10:40:41 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52EC3A5D.60404@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169317 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:05:49 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > How about a POSIX timestamp rather than an ISO 8601 string? > "1391204651!larsi@gnus.org", for example, instead of > "2014-01-31T21:44:11!larsi@gnus.org". Please don't. These strings are for human consumption. "2014-01-31T21:44:11" is easily parsed by humans, while "1391204651" needs some program to convert it to human-readable time stamp. If you look at this text outside of Emacs, the conversion is not easy, and even inside Emacs it needs to type a command, which is a nuisance. > The ISO 8601 string is not that readable, nor does it match the > localtime clock of committer, so it's a bit of a magic cookie anyway. It's a magic cookie which is easily interpreted by simply reading it.