From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:49:47 +0200 Message-ID: <83a90h4xr8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <85k31coixa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85oapy5kt6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y4oiiw81.fsf@gnu.org> <838ugdf251.fsf@gnu.org> <54D80098.3020209@cs.ucla.edu> <54D85304.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> <54D9AC29.2020603@cs.ucla.edu> <54DA8539.1020905@cs.ucla.edu> <87zj8ktq8f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <54DD6413.1000403@cs.ucla.edu> <83wq3m436s.fsf@gnu.org> <54DDEB4D.5040300@dancol> <83egpt4zz6.fsf@gnu.org> <54DE12E9.504@[87.69.4.28]> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423842614 23291 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2015 15:50:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 13 16:50:05 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YMIVI-0004hs-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:50:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56030 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMIVH-0008TZ-LJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36901) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMIV9-0008R7-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:49:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMIV5-0003hZ-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:49:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:35983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMIV5-0003hJ-Hq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:49:51 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJP00600V9MRF00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:49:50 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJP006OGVZ1S300@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:49:50 +0200 (IST) Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and truncated. In-reply-to: <54DE12E9.5040606@dancol.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183009 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:06:17 -0800 > From: Daniel Colascione > CC: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > This way, instead of loaded modules needing to track Emacs' historically > unstable internal data structures, elisp needs to track module ABIs, How's that better? That's the same problem in the opposite direction, only much worse, since the modules out there are not under our control at all. Maybe it works in Python because Python is much more standardized and stable that Emacs Lisp.