From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83a90fuhjh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <54D85304.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> <54D9AC29.2020603@cs.ucla.edu> <54DA8539.1020905@cs.ucla.edu> <87zj8ktq8f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <54DD6413.1000403@cs.ucla.edu> <83wq3m436s.fsf@gnu.org> <54DDEB4D.5040300@dancol> <83egpt4zz6.fsf@gnu.org> <54DE12E9.5040606@dancol.org> <85twypiiug.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83zj8g3n16.fsf@gnu.org> <87twyolm8k.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <833868y8hf.fsf@gnu.org> <87sie8l9ql.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83fva8wgqa.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp9blhyu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83mw4fulju.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424026832 31744 80.91.229.3 (15 Feb 2015 19:00:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 15 20:00:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4QZ-00066X-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:00:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36282 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4QY-0001FX-TO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39681) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4QI-0001BW-3W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4QD-0002cA-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:00:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39647) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4QC-0002c6-Q2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:00:00 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJT00B00U3SR200@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:59:58 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJT00BQLU3YMS20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:59:58 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183109 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , > stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:47:56 -0500 > > > a Lisp_Object visible to a module? Will it be what we have on lisp.h, > > or some opaque object? > > It'll be opaque (i.e. EMACS_INT and that's it, everything else happens > via function calls). But even a definition of EMACS_INT comes with a lot of baggage, just look at lisp.h with fresh eyes. IOW, you should present a more complete proposal, if you want to convince (including convince yourself ;-) that this concept can hold enough water.