From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: xref-find-matches and stuff
Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 11:05:31 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a8xep450.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bnhuka8x.fsf@gmail.com>
> From: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 23:52:30 +0200
> Cc: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> >>> Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 8 May 2015 22:42:35 +0300 wrote:
>
>
> > And my point is, the backends should be made well enough that you
> > generally won't want to use a symbol from the 2nd backend that isn't
> > in the first one. Ideally because there will be no such symbols.
>
> I am afraid this is an impossible task.
Can you tell why?
> Anyways, I am summarizing my point in a final attempt to "make a case";)
>
> - IMENU operates on what I work, is always up-to date, works with
> non-programming modes (org, latex etc), non-visiting buffers
> (*scratch*) and any project-less file/language what I might open for
> whatever cursory reason. Stuff works out of the box - no tagging, no
> REPL is required.
>
> - REPLs are good, but work only on loaded files. Usually these cannot
> work with multiple projects or multi-language projects. Cross
> references support is lacking for many REPLs.
>
> - TAGs can support multiple projects but cannot do what Imenu can and
> will never be as smart as REPLs can be. No support for less common
> languages. Limited UI in emacs is a hindrance for common users (I
> cannot comment about ggtags though).
To me, this means we need to have a single back-end for each
situation, and ideally also a mechanism to choose that single back-end
automatically. I see no reasons to conclude that we need more than
one in each use case.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-09 8:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-04 2:45 xref-find-matches and stuff Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 9:17 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-04 12:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-04 16:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-05-04 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-04 16:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-05-04 19:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-04 18:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 7:07 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-05 13:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 12:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 17:45 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-06 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 18:34 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-06 20:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-05 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-05 16:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-05 16:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-05 17:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-05 18:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-05 21:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 2:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-06 12:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 13:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-06 22:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-07 4:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-20 1:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-20 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-14 8:30 ` Andreas Politz
2015-07-14 15:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-16 18:59 ` Andreas Politz
2015-07-17 1:49 ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-07-19 18:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-20 8:19 ` Andreas Politz
2015-05-05 14:35 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05 15:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 17:17 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-06 0:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-06 13:54 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-07 0:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-07 12:24 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-08 12:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-08 13:02 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-08 17:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-10 12:31 ` martin rudalics
2015-05-10 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 10:08 ` martin rudalics
2015-05-11 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 9:36 ` martin rudalics
2015-05-12 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 16:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-12 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 20:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-13 2:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-13 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-14 0:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-14 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-13 7:33 ` martin rudalics
2015-05-13 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-14 10:13 ` martin rudalics
2015-05-14 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-15 16:44 ` martin rudalics
2015-05-15 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 15:42 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-08 16:44 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-08 16:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-08 18:42 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-08 19:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-08 21:52 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-09 0:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-09 12:58 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-11 1:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-09 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-05-09 12:32 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-09 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 13:46 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-09 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 18:23 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-09 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 21:12 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-09 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 9:06 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-09 10:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 11:43 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-09 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 12:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-09 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 12:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-09 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-09 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-10 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 15:37 ` maintaining etags Francesco Potortì
2015-05-11 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 11:17 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-12 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 16:37 ` xref-find-matches and stuff Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 1:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 1:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-11 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 20:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-12 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-12 11:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-12 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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