From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:56:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83a8hla8nx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87twg05nqf.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468421870 10672 80.91.229.3 (13 Jul 2016 14:57:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 13 16:57:45 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bNLbc-00041U-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:57:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48225 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNLbY-0007ob-UN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:57:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55571) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNLb3-0007oV-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNLb1-0001HQ-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:57:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNLb1-0001HJ-68; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3849 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bNLax-0000DZ-Oc; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:57:06 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:36 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205638 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:36 -0400 > > > With all due respect, I think that is not true, not even close to > > being true. The change log is tremendously better in all cases than > > any other method I've seen. It is hard work to recover the change log > > from a diff. > > But it's not like the VCS only has diffs to offer. > "git log" gives pretty much the same info as the ChangeLog. Only because we format commit log messages as we did with ChangeLog. The issue at hand was to stop requiring that.