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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: phst@google.com, aurelien.aptel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: module documentation draft
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:03:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a81d5iay.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkTwce+Z62y+mrXZxLO7CAjuTpEGQFxWytP3t8qhK=fPyg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Philipp Stephani on Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:39:15 +0000)

> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:39:15 +0000
> Cc: aurelien.aptel@gmail.com, phst@google.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
>  I already read this, when this was first announced in April.
>  Unfortunately, the style and the methodology of the description
>  differs significantly from what we use in the ELisp manual. So this
>  text will have to be reworked, and I didn't yet find time to do it.
> 
> As said, I'd like to get feedback about the *content*. Changing the *style* is easier and requires less
> discussion.

I said "style and methodology", and we seem to disagree about what is
and isn't "style".  My "style" is part of your "content".

>  The
>  first step is to convert the tutorial-like description to the
>  reference-style description we use in the manual. 
> 
> I'm a bit surprised that you call my style "tutorial-like". I think it's not a tutorial at all; there's e.g. no end-to-end
> example to step-by-step instructions.

I already said I won't argue about the "tutorial" part, so let's drop
it.

> What exactly would you want to have changed to turn it into "reference style"? 

It's hard to explain without doing the actual work.  For starters, it
is too formal: begins by introducing all the terms, even if that's far
from where they are actually needed in the description; talks about
requirements before describing the interesting stuff; etc.  Then the
order of the sections doesn't always make sense to me: for example,
"Compatibility" should be somewhere near the end.  And there are other
issues.

Doesn't reading a typical chapter in the ELisp manual, such as "Hash
Tables" or "Processes", make the differences clear?

Or let me turn the table and ask you: do you think that text is fit
for putting it as-is into the ELisp manual?



  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-29 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-24 17:04 module documentation draft Aurélien Aptel
2017-07-23 18:57 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-25 12:50   ` Aurélien Aptel
2017-09-28 20:25   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-28 21:51     ` Aurélien Aptel
2017-09-29 16:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 16:49       ` Aurélien Aptel
2017-09-29 18:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 20:39       ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-29 21:03         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-12-26 21:06           ` Philipp Stephani
2018-10-11 18:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-14 15:47               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-10-14 16:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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