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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Regarding outline headings in emacs-lisp libraries
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:24:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6zbbydl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv5za0ctbj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:22:01 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>,  rms@gnu.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:22:01 -0400
> 
> >> Stefan seems to dislike the idea of doing away with the "Code:" name
> >> more strongly than I do.
> > And I still don't understand why.
> 
> I have the strong suspicion that renaming all those `;;; Code:` in all
> those files *will* lead to regressions, since that convention's been
> with us for so many years and followed by such a wide percentage of all
> distributed Elisp files, that I expect it's used by several scripts we
> don't know about.

If we don't know about such scripts, do we really need to assume they
exist?

And what kind of scripts did you have in mind -- scripts which do what
jobs?

> And of course, we won't be able to rename them all, since too many of
> them aren't under our control anyway.  So ";;; Core:" will be with us
> for the next 10 years whether we like it or not.

How about if we leave "Code:", but just as a heading with absolutely
no body, i.e. if we add right after it some more appropriate heading
("Prerequisites:" or somesuch)?  Would that be a good compromise?

> Now, if the benefit were significant, I wouldn't mind, but AFAICT, the
> benefit of renaming is very small (at least, given the alternative names
> I've seen proposed so far which all seemed rather bland).  

It's IMO as significant when compared to the rest of Jonas's proposal.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-03 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-17 21:48 Regarding outline headings in emacs-lisp libraries Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-17 22:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-18  1:41 ` T.V Raman
2020-07-18  3:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-18 14:16     ` T.V Raman
2020-07-18 16:12       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-18 16:49         ` T.V Raman
2020-07-18 22:54           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-18  3:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-18 16:15   ` Drew Adams
2020-07-18 22:46     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-18 23:56       ` Drew Adams
2020-07-19  9:03         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-19 15:36           ` Drew Adams
2020-07-18 23:26   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-19  3:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-19 14:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26 13:49     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-26 14:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26 15:43         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-26 16:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26 18:25             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-26 14:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-26 15:32         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-26 17:00           ` Yuan Fu
2020-07-26 18:23           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-26 18:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26 19:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-28 13:41                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-28 14:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-28 14:42                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-28 15:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-28 14:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-26 21:11             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-26 18:34           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-26 18:55       ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2020-07-18  6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-28 19:18 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-29 14:34   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-29 18:34     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-07-29 18:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-01  2:53   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-01  5:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-01 21:13       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-01 23:10         ` T.V Raman
2020-08-02  1:01           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-02 16:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-03  3:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-03 14:24             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-08-03 14:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-08 18:13               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-08 21:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-09  8:37                   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-03  3:16         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-02  2:26       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-08 12:02         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-08 18:37   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-08 18:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-09  8:35       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-12 16:53   ` Thorsten Jolitz

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