From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 08:43:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83a6xwj2b4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y2lkb6kb.fsf@gmail.com> <9A4FA038-CCFD-45DF-8B57-E348AFF951D9@gmail.com> <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <87h7s6c31d.fsf@gmail.com> <87mu1xrjqw.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <48ed4897-356c-4669-a330-1fdb5d65402b@default> <83lfhhijbl.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2lh2z2m.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21138"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: casouri@gmail.com, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, self@gkayaalp.com, ghe@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, tecosaur@gmail.com To: Ricardo Wurmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 07:44:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGbrA-0005OY-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:44:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41892 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGbr9-0001Hu-F7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 01:44:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGbqV-0000re-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 01:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGbqU-00055U-1y; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 01:43:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4115 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGbqT-0003jC-Ds; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 01:43:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y2lh2z2m.fsf@elephly.net> (message from Ricardo Wurmus on Thu, 10 Sep 2020 21:48:01 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255095 Archived-At: > From: Ricardo Wurmus > Cc: Yuri Khan , casouri@gmail.com, ghe@sdf.org, > self@gkayaalp.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, tecosaur@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 21:48:01 +0200 > > I wonder if it makes sense to link directly to the customize “feature” > (for the lack of a better word), i.e. to remove options from the menu > and replace them with an item that essentially does “M-x customize”. > Customize provides an intuitive interface for many options and is not > constrained by the limitations of a single menu. Customize is in the Options menu. For simple on/off options, especially the popular ones, it makes sense to offer them as simple menu toggles, so that we don't force the user to use the more complex UI of Customize for such simple tasks.