From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 17:53:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83a6rww12u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1laomak.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn0uzubj.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6molnq.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8geztvt.fsf@gnu.org> <871rdaokhi.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtvyzscl.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft1pjuih.fsf@gnus.org> <83ft1pxsn8.fsf@gnu.org> <878s7hia9j.fsf@gnus.org> <834ki5xpgf.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0r06ui4.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38980"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 16:56:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEDZ4-0009yB-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 16:56:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54604 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEDZ2-0004S9-3l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:56:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEDX2-0002nT-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:53:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEDX2-0002pb-2v; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:53:56 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2948 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lEDX1-00080w-D4; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:53:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k0r06ui4.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:34:59 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265483 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:34:59 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Making changes, discovering they bring more trouble than they are > > worth, debugging the problems, then reverting takes time and precious > > energy. The gains, OTOH, are minuscule, if they even exist. I don't > > know how you, but to me the decision looks a no-brainer. > > It does indeed not look that way to me -- I've now pushed what I think > you were suggesting? No, that's exactly what I had in mind. > (For instance, if the user has bound the command to anything else > involving a shift command, then they'll (probably, depending on the > differences between last-command-event and this-single-command-keys) get > "M-X" now.) Yes, but we had the same problem with M-x for eons.