From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 09:08:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83a6jkyrok.fsf@gnu.org> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <831r59kyhf.fsf@gnu.org> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> <8335pmgnjy.fsf@gnu.org> <604da2cb10ac61f2b8b89a02c89056be@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83a6jtff87.fsf@gnu.org> <5ac7a31cf2959c31c262a3377c736a5a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83ilygew7p.fsf@gnu.org> <83fstjdiwl.fsf@gnu.org> <871r534s2o.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfxgx09x.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31956"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 08 08:10:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYj53-00085F-AT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 08:10:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42150 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYj51-0001r1-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 02:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35206) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYj3t-0000lI-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 02:08:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYj3s-0007kA-7e; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 02:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4145 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYj3m-0005TK-0g; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 02:08:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 23:24:15 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276538 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 23:24:15 +0100 > Cc: Phil Sainty , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , > emacs-devel > > > Another simpler, less "revolutionary" option (can't find the right word) is > > to do what Eli suggested, having 'C-h f s-foo TAB' expand to the actual > > symbol name, according to the buffer, using the normal completion > > mechanisms of Emacs. > > That does sound good. > > An implementation of this idea is awaiting comments over at bug#50959. I think you should install that. But if you have specific aspects of that you think need further scrutiny and discussion before installing, please point out those specific aspects. Thanks.