From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 15:48:31 +0200 Message-ID: <83a6i0uuhc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nszpdv.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvswrp8.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgq0tu7z.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnl4v8dh.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1bcuxld.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7c8uvvc.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16316"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 15:01:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mo4SZ-000430-7F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 15:01:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47714 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mo4SX-00042H-Fs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:01:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60208) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mo4Fk-0004LI-CY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:48:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=33324 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mo4Fj-0000C2-Vy; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:48:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=DAr9kBH1OgLTqeNsDJQ/bKxTsjFIdkIekZiWfGkK5+M=; b=RhEoSBLWxkY1 49nS9LeDRaa5hOFSJ1P3ASLEg6d+tr55wZg/YWWMlDRzrS+6oTqrDL2Tied+/Pq6a2Ke2ctD7d6yg 6tfpCK4xqI5fMX6StMzSO3CFtkD2xXIItIvWOYtljPblmSmB/nLdCnprwalDj7Pek6ttRPCphLwjy nhoYbjCuM/n4Q6INROMEvzGr+AXsTSaLGzIOws1P3SpQYDuk0KMwP8spnnS2fABcWHrP34aSniZjE ZyaD3inpoML42pLW7lLhURTe7vd1pX/jhwD450n9LHnBzP1iAYk1LCJbLrJL+S5fqWMs9FKeSytBn XecXuIHH3LbIDMWhJA13EA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1888 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mo4Fj-0007Ty-Hy; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:48:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 19 Nov 2021 14:41:11 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279762 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 14:41:11 +0100 > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Is that the default that corresponds to standard-fontset-spec in > > fontset.el, or did you tweak your system or Emacs to use that family? > > They come automatically if you install emacs-gtk (gtk depends on pango, > pango depends on fontconfig, fontconfig depends on ttf-bitstream-vera > that has these two fonts). With emacs-lucid, you have a direct > dependency on fontconfig so its the same thing there. Does emacs-gtk install some site-init files, or does it work via fontconfig settings or other GTK settings? If any of the above is true, then it confirms my mental model of this: Emacs by default doesn't ensure the fixed-pitch and variable-pitch faces use fonts from the same family.