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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
Cc: arash@gnu.org, corwin@bru.st, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Acquiring dependencies for Windows builds
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2022 18:48:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6e0fl15.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xm46k0d4l9uz.fsf_-_@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> (dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de)

> From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
> Cc: arash@gnu.org,  corwin@bru.st,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>   phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2022 16:52:52 +0100
> 
> >> Luckily zlib1.dll contains also "lib". :-)
> >
> > You are relying on luck too much: look in your Windows/system32
> > directory, and you will see there quite a few system DLLs that match
> > "lib".  My suggestion is to have an explicit list of system DLLs that
> > should be filtered out.
> 
> I understand, thanks.  I'll grab all DLL filenames of the
> Windows/system32 folder and filter them out.  Or how would you build or
> hard-code such a filter list?

I'd maintain a hand-crafted list.  There aren't so many system DLLs
you will see in the dependencies.

> >> In the following I'm using copy-file. But I'm wondering why the argument
> >> OK-IF-ALREADY-EXISTS can't be used to skip a copy process if the file
> >> exists?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand,
> 
> Would it make sense to you to have the (additonal) capability for
> copy-file to do nothing if the target file already exists?
> 
> At the moment I can 1) trigger an error, 2) overwrite an existing file
> and 3) ask for confirmation either to overwrite or to have an error.  So
> 3) is actually only an - annoying - way to have 1) or 2), there's no way
> to leave an existing file alone without an error.

I think this is answered by the below:

> > If you find libtiff-5.dll, you should not overwrite it with
> > libtiff3.dll, even if the latter exists.
> 
> I see, I'll just copy the available, leftmost DLLs.

Yes.

> > Also, I don't see that you ignore DLLs that don't match the version
> > with which Emacs was compiled.  E.g., this part of
> > dynamic-library-alist:
> >
> >        (if (>= libgif-version 50100)
> > 	   ;; Yes, giflib 5.0 uses 6 as the major version of the API,
> > 	   ;; and giflib 5.1 uses 7, thus "libgif-7.dll" and
> > 	   ;; "libgif-6.dll" below (giflib 4.x used 5 as the major API
> > 	   ;; version).  giflib5.dll is from the lua-files project,
> > 	   ;; and gif.dll is from luapower.
> > 	   '(gif "libgif-7.dll")
> > 	 (if (>= libgif-version 50000)
> > 	     '(gif "libgif-6.dll" "giflib5.dll" "gif.dll")
> > 	 '(gif "libgif-5.dll" "giflib4.dll" "libungif4.dll" "libungif.dll")))
> 
> Please tell me where I can find above definition of
> dynamic-library-alist?  Mine (Emacs-27.2) just says:
> 
>   dynamic-library-alist is a variable defined in ‘C source code’.
> 
>   ((harfbuzz "libharfbuzz-0.dll")
>    (gdiplus "gdiplus.dll")
>    (shlwapi "shlwapi.dll")
>    (xpm "libxpm.dll" "xpm4.dll" "libXpm-nox4.dll")
>    (png "libpng16.dll" "libpng16-16.dll")
>    (tiff "libtiff-5.dll" "libtiff3.dll" "libtiff.dll")
>    (jpeg "libjpeg-8.dll")
>    (gif "libgif-7.dll")
>    (svg "librsvg-2-2.dll")
>    (webp "libwebp-7.dll" "libwebp.dll")
>    (sqlite3 "libsqlite3-0.dll")
>    (gdk-pixbuf "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll")
>    (glib "libglib-2.0-0.dll")
>    (gio "libgio-2.0-0.dll")
>    (gobject "libgobject-2.0-0.dll")
>    (gnutls "libgnutls-30.dll")
>    (libxml2 "libxml2-2.dll" "libxml2.dll")
>    (zlib "zlib1.dll" "libz-1.dll")
>    (lcms2 "liblcms2-2.dll")
>    (json "libjansson-4.dll")
>    (gccjit "libgccjit-0.dll"))

I guess you took this from a running Emacs?  The original is in
w32-win.el, and that's where I took the fragment I've shown.

If you intend to collect the dependencies by running the same Emacs
binary as the one you will be packaging, then using the list from the
running Emacs will solve you the versions problem, because Emacs
filters it to have the DLLs it needs.

> > means that Emacs compiled against giflib 5.1 and later should not try
> > to use libgif-6.dll or libgif-5.dll, it should only use libgif-7.dll.
> > We do this when a newer version is binary incompatible with an older
> > one, so you cannot just choose whichever DLL you have, you must use
> > the one that is binary-compatible with Emacs.
> 
> I'm struggling to understand that, I thought ./configure would sort out
> what is necessary and available on my system?

Not configure, but Emacs itself when it starts up.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-08 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14 11:36 Bootstrap Compilation Speed phillip.lord
2022-01-14 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-14 14:16   ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15  9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-15 11:29   ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 10:29 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-15 11:28   ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 16:24     ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-15 19:06       ` Native compilation on Windows, was " H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-15 19:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-15 19:27           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-16 11:47             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-16 12:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17  9:39                 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 12:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 14:07                     ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 14:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 16:25                       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-17 18:07                         ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-17 18:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 20:25                         ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 20:46                           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-18 16:38                             ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-18 19:37                               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-18 19:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 21:36                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19  0:02                                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-19  7:45                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 14:26                                         ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-19 14:42                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:38                                         ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-19 14:01                                       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 18:59                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 20:21                                           ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-20  7:12                                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-20 14:32                                               ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-20 22:56                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21  6:58                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 11:07                                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 12:04                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 19:22                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 19:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22 10:30                                                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-22 10:44                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 19:45                                                               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 19:56                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-26 19:49                                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 12:21                                                       ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-21 12:51                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 12:59                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 17:48                                                             ` phillip.lord
2022-01-21 19:36                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 19:47                                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-21 19:58                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 19:58                                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-22 12:52                                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-22 12:40                                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-22 12:46                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22 17:56                                                                     ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-21  9:05                                                   ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-22 21:51                                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-22 22:52                                                       ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-23 21:16                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-24  3:24                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24  4:17                                                           ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-24 15:43                                                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-24 16:56                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24 18:28                                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-24 18:35                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                     ` <86czkgztcv.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
     [not found]                                                                       ` <83zgnkijfo.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-01-25 10:34                                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 12:32                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 13:46                                                                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 13:50                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 11:57                                                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 14:12                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 18:12                                                                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 18:34                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 21:31                                                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 10:45                                                               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-26  4:40                                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-19 18:33                                       ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-19  7:28                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:57                                       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 14:39                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:48                                           ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-29 21:32                                           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-29 22:01                                             ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-29 22:23                                               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30  1:58                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-30 10:13                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 10:19                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 21:33                                                     ` Arash Esbati
2022-01-30 22:16                                                       ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-31 10:57                                                         ` Arash Esbati
2022-01-31 15:58                                                           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-31 22:17                                                             ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-01 12:45                                                               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 15:28                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-01 19:26                                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 18:38                                                                 ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-01 19:02                                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 19:10                                                                     ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-01 19:27                                                                       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 21:56                                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-03  3:22                                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-03  7:10                                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-03  7:47                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03 13:57                                                                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-03 16:53                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03 17:45                                                                         ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-02 22:06                                                               ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 23:28                                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-04 10:12                                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 23:31                                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-31 12:27                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 22:04                                                         ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 22:22                                                           ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-04 10:05                                                             ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-03  7:10                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-21 21:59                                                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-22  3:31                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-23  6:44                                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-23  9:32                                                                   ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-23 18:30                                                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-23 12:39                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 10:49                                                                     ` Acquiring dependencies for Windows builds, was: Native compilation on Windows H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-27 11:07                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-28 21:51                                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-03-01 13:32                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-08 15:52                                                                             ` Acquiring dependencies for Windows builds H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-03-08 16:48                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-01-31 12:26                                                       ` Native compilation on Windows, was Re: Bootstrap Compilation Speed Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30  2:37                                                 ` chad
2022-01-30 12:29                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 17:17                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 17:53                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01 18:59                                                       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 19:23                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 10:36                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 11:28                                                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 12:57                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 13:00                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 15:23                                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 16:20                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 17:04                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 17:58                                                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 18:18                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-01 19:00                                                       ` chad
2022-02-01 19:08                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 22:12                                                       ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-05 21:46                                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-05 23:18                                                           ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-06 15:00                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-06 17:21                                                               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-07 12:54                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-09 18:23                                                                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-09 19:09                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09 20:13                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-09 23:32                                                                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-10 10:28                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 21:58                                               ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 22:09                                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-03  6:25                                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-03 13:30                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-05 21:34                                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30  7:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:46                                         ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-19 19:25                                           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 18:28                                 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17  9:44               ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 16:08                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-01-17 17:23                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-17 17:46                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-01-17 19:09                       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-17 20:21                   ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-18  9:03                     ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 14:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 15:09                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-01-18 16:40                       ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-15 22:14         ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 22:32           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-16  8:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17  9:34             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-17  9:56             ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 12:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 14:31       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm

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