From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unifying "foo-mode"s and "foo-ts-mode"s Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:38:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83a6345b87.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877cyagmti.fsf@posteo.net> <831qoi85u7.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt76f4n4.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfgy6l0n.fsf@gnu.org> <877cy9b1k0.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <87wn69oy1c.fsf@thornhill.no> <87edsh9gzn.fsf@posteo.net> <87tu1dowpp.fsf@thornhill.no> <87o7rl7x4i.fsf@posteo.net> <83tu1c6got.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgb47uk8.fsf@posteo.net> <83o7rk6eyz.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7rk7snd.fsf@posteo.net> <83ilhs6cuq.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz8077n4.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26463"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theo@thornhill.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 31 07:39:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pBVWU-0006jT-Ny for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 07:39:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBVVu-0005HL-2f; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBVVq-0005H8-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:38:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBVVp-0001r6-Ns; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:38:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=a9otJhMwjBo78drBzfHyIp6vVHY4TObitMp6o4fF2fA=; b=BepHELjgb75l GY2klr2f8dzEDZTEonMILOF+RVSh53C1240h6ewU9o19XwYgQPvDDt2wbMJAxSx8BeCADyrRQ1+Zb Q4jR+BiVleIKxV8whuuRKNrY9hGWQhovHIq+pl4aM7MPjvSGOGchnRwCqgFGidZNJOb6u5SvmhIwR qnRBUrh/f58nc1hNAexdeprOuQxX6B9icbyFxqYt69m9zjnZDRyyUsCrhvPJGy+DqAlHAgLLUmHvF 0nEFxWyXLBtK+DbS5D/T7maEOuSJieKr7bJa71brMUiWBMuU8o702KcWwb3w1NE7YWy9YuJdbZueO HA2IA38bR+ZdcGTCJNQRJQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBVVn-000354-Hn; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:38:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87cz8077n4.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Sat, 31 Dec 2022 00:13:03 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302148 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: theo@thornhill.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 00:13:03 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> That answers my question. The point is whether the usage of ...-ts-mode > >> major modes is recommended or provided with a "we reserve the right to > >> change anything"-like caveat, so one shouldn't rely too much on their > >> public interface. > > > > I guess it depends on who "one" is for this purpose. Which code wants > > to rely on these symbols, and why? > > Both emacs-internal packages and external packages that depend on Emacs > 29. Are there any concrete examples of those? If not, let's delay this discussion until such concrete cases emerge, because discussing a theoretical issue is many times not very productive, as it's easy to talk past each other when there's nothing concrete in sight.