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> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 01:21:16 -0400
> 
> Which of the cl- macros really generate calls that require cl-lib
> to be loaded?

I don't think there are any.

> We should fix those.

If they exist, yes.