From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:19:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83a5rjuskq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <46ab3c7d-d820-4bb4-8ec4-97c614d7c8a0@alphapapa.net> <871qd8sfdx.fsf@posteo.net> <838r7g8pys.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29703"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Petteri Hintsanen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 12 12:21:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r28Wr-0007V4-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:21:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r28Vy-0003Yr-4X; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 06:20:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r28Vw-0003Y9-7N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 06:20:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r28Vu-0008Ma-7Q; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 06:20:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=uGZTvbzmfIlEo54su4PAixcY/Iry353+BO4OMmbCeLY=; b=Vc85HcOW9xYx dW8lC2MxoUBpVL+78J+vDQsCMembwETRWTjX5SFMjsB2HKX9Be7OuZa+97pLRUeFX9uXwFwEnBNhc rUGNSo/kvoJxbfmNiW22nDOvwcNCaz+sM8UUCTX2hx2NbLwuSHOWO1rfohnjR4sO4JQ1Iq7KNTlQx YAWj/EBe406wcfQdQR74onJVYCN6Msw3gqSjo8VVgn0Ywfoy27gSgu76UlfbylzKhNmJR1KIAPrJc IIreTmcPnN/lBbHhgp8VfR9r+TVFwmzf3bGJzIylpL7sEZgfI+XcKUr+hwDuCDvyCdaa6Gh8KQPCS wTOGz4Wgj5Qac5OT/SCCwg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Petteri Hintsanen on Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:08:20 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312649 Archived-At: > From: Petteri Hintsanen > Cc: Philip Kaludercic , rms@gnu.org, > joaotavora@gmail.com, adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > stefankangas@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:08:20 +0200 > > Would it be useful to document recommended and/or avoidable practices, > for example by extending Appendix D (Tips and Conventions) in Emacs Lisp > reference manual? It would, but first we need to have a kind of consensus on what those practices are. Currently, as this discussion demonstrates, we don't have such a consensus.