From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive hat. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110538 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:33:03 +0000 > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > karl@freefriends.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:39:48PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > That's an unusual use of @itemx. Beware: it could do something you > > > > didn't intend in some future version of Texinfo. > > > > I don't think so; at least, not if makeinfo does what its manual > > > says. @itemx is defined to be identical to @item, except for not > > > inserting a blank line. (See page "itemx" in the manual). > > > That's not what I meant. I meant that you in effect have here @item's > > without the text after them. A @table is not supposed to be like that, > > so who knows what will the output be? In particular, HTML and XML > > outputs may assume there always be some text, and if not, fail to > > properly close the markup. > > Surely it's not unusual (in any markup language) to have a blank cell in > a table. I've generated HTML, and it's fine. I've generated XML, and it > looks fine too, as much as XML ever looks fine (though I don't know > offhand if I've got a suitable viewing program for it). I had no doubt you tested your changes. That is why I said that this might be a problem _in_some_future_version_ of Texinfo, see above. In particular, the next version of Texinfo is expected to toss the C implementation of makeinfo and instead use texi2html, which is a Perl program. That means all the undocumented (mis)features of makeinfo will give way to other undocumented (mis)features. > Have you never written @example code yourself, where the enforced > indentation has caused lines to become "too long"? Sure, but I always find a way to break those into several lines. > Anyhow, I've put @example in now (as requested by Miles and yourself), > and split some more lines up. There are, however, one or two lines which > go over C74 which can't sensibly be split. If you show those lines, perhaps someone can suggest a way of splitting them that does make sense.