From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: clang/emacs/ecb/semantic Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:56:53 +0200 Message-ID: <838v9frpcq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20940A983D814C6192ABFF2B7A269A88@gmail.com> <87wqx42nag.fsf@yandex.ru> <87ehjcrw70.fsf@engster.org> <87hao816w4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hao7ioos.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87zk1yhib2.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <50BAE369.2030503@dancol.org> <50BC0383.30208@dancol.org> <83ehj7rrko.fsf@gnu.org> <874nk3njay.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354557448 21673 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2012 17:57:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pjb@informatimago.com, dancol@dancol.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 18:57:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TfaGp-00022t-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:57:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39328 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfaGd-0003iH-Np for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfaGX-0003hZ-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfaGR-0004u5-Nb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:57:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:55856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfaGK-0004sG-Kt; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:57:00 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MEG00J00V32YC00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:56:58 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MEG00J8SV6XOD60@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:56:58 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <874nk3njay.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155196 Archived-At: > From: Chong Yidong > Cc: Daniel Colascione , pjb@informatimago.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:21:09 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > More to the point, you seem to say that the line was drawn in the > > wrong place in this matter. But you never say why it was wrong, in > > practical terms > > The practical terms are in the subject of this thread, i.e. the fact > that there is no GPL'ed compiler which can provide the parse data needed > by a modern IDE. And there wasn't a GPL'ed text editor that supported bidirectional editing 2 years ago. So what? All it means that no one stepped forward and did that in a way that was acceptable. It certainly doesn't mean the FSF should fall for the first opportunity out there, just because there's no other solution.