unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Two strange messages while building Emacs on MS-Windows
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:20:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838v95c1zw.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87txrtzzfs.fsf@wanadoo.es>

> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:42:15 +0100
> 
> It says that MS Windows is ~80% slower than GNU/Linux at running emacs
> with for evaling a simple expression :-)

That's more reasonable, and probably even expected, see below.

> Serioulsy, though, Emacs does quite a few things at startup.

Indeed.  And on Windows it does more.  What's more, quite a few of
those things involves calling 'stat', which on Windows is much slower.

> Still, I don't understand how your i7 is 90% slower than my old Q6600,
> running the same OS. IIRC you mentioned that your build is unoptimized.
> Mine is with default configuration, which defaults to -O2.

A more important difference is that I do have an anti-virus installed
(although the few tens of milliseconds that takes, if that's the
reason, I'm gladly willing to pay).  And my system is heavily used for
years (the motherboard is new, but the OS installation is 7-year old),
so it has quite a lot of baggage in its Registry etc.

On top of that, I didn't use MSYS to time the commands.  I have a
clone of the 'time' command (called 'timep', because 'time' is taken
by an internal cmd command that does something very different) which
uses Windows APIs to report times used by its child processes.  This
alone can explain the difference.

Anyway, a 4 to 6 min bootstrap is something I can easily live with,
especially since I almost never do it.




  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-10 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-07 19:21 Two strange messages while building Emacs on MS-Windows Dani Moncayo
2012-12-07 19:54 ` Glenn Morris
2012-12-07 19:57   ` Glenn Morris
2012-12-07 20:17     ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-07 21:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-07 22:11         ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-07 22:35           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-08  8:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-08  8:43             ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-08  9:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-08 23:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-09  3:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-09 15:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-09 18:15                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-09 18:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-09 19:31                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-09 22:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-09 22:44                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-10  6:06                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 11:11                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-10 14:37                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 15:42                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-10 16:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-12-09 22:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-09 23:31                       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-10  6:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 20:57                           ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-10 21:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 21:33                               ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11  6:49                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11  7:18                                   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11  7:51                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 20:41                                       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 21:00                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 20:41                               ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 21:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 21:58                                   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 22:55                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-12  3:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-12 14:26                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-12 17:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-12 18:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-12  3:48                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-12 18:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11  7:57                             ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-11 20:42                               ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 20:47                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-11 20:58                                   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 20:59                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-11 21:01                                       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 21:02                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-10  9:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 10:37                       ` Romain Francoise
2012-12-10 14:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 15:33                           ` Romain Francoise
2012-12-10 16:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 14:44                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-07 22:57         ` joakim
2012-12-08  8:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-08 10:58             ` joakim
2012-12-08 11:35               ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-08 12:12                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-08 12:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-08 13:24                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-08 13:38                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-09  1:18                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-12-08 12:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-07 21:35       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-09  3:20       ` Jason Rumney
2012-12-07 20:17   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-07 21:24     ` Stefan Monnier

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=838v95c1zw.fsf@gnu.org \
    --to=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=ofv@wanadoo.es \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).