From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp (was: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r101338: ...) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:16:15 +0200 Message-ID: <838ut66hhc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r47bi1e5.fsf@yandex.ru> <52F96284.50507@yandex.ru> <52FAE12B.6060101@yandex.ru> <52FC3BEE.60604@yandex.ru> <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83sirj9cyp.fsf@gnu.org> <20140217203145.71a849f7@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <837g8t8ouc.fsf@gnu.org> <20140219080524.25689b6b@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83k3cr58o2.fsf@gnu.org> <20140219200506.1570f6f3@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392837374 8949 80.91.229.3 (19 Feb 2014 19:16:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jorgen Schaefer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 19 20:16:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCd1-0006zq-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:16:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33270 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCd0-00089B-Np for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:16:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35523) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCcs-00082V-TP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:16:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCcn-0004b5-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:16:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:46703) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCcn-0004as-0x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N1900200C2R4300@mtaout26.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:14:23 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N1900JAIC3Z5D80@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:14:23 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20140219200506.1570f6f3@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169777 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:05:06 +0100 > From: Jorgen Schaefer > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:11:57 +0200 > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > So I really have no idea what is this gripe all about > > My only gripe is about you continuously ignoring what I am saying and > respond to something entirely different. I don't think I did: > > > There are a few other minor problems for me. For example, my last > > > foray in adding a patch to Emacs was so scary regarding the amount > > > of red tape involved in the whole process that I am somewhat > > > reluctant to commit to doing that regularly. > > > > What red tape? Emacs is about the most red-tape-less project as you > > can find, as far as the procedure of admitting a patch is considered. > > If I want to contribute to Emacs, and I want to be good contributor, I > have the following things to keep in mind: You mentioned "red tape", I asked what was that red tape, you described it, I replied that you will see the same in any other project. That is all. > I have no idea how I can have a constructive discussion with someone > who is so obviously intent on reading what they want to read instead of > trying to read what the other party is saying, so I will now cease to > try. Sorry.