From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:09:50 +0300 Message-ID: <838ulj4kdt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410883821 6291 80.91.229.3 (16 Sep 2014 16:10:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cwebber@dustycloud.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 16 18:10:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XTvKW-0000Dt-7H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:10:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39050 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTvKV-0004wW-JX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52091) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTvKN-0004rj-IR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTvKI-0003FB-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:52118) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTvKI-0003BX-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NC0002004M03U00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:09:53 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NC0002VV4WG1C80@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:09:53 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174377 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:50:54 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > One such option is Guile-Emacs. This presumably would give us a faster > implementation (at least in theory, their bytecode is significantly > more efficient) If by "bytecode" you mean the *.go files, then we should also keep in mind that these are not architecture-independent as *.elc files are. Not a catastrophe, of course, but something to remember. > And of course, if Guile's own manpower dries up, Emacs would be forced > to keep supporting Guile, which is more work than supporting just Elisp. A data point: judging by "git log", Guile is currently developed and maintained by about 3 active developers.