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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@gnu.org>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: strip accents and sorting [was: BibTeX issues]
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 20:51:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838sraa6e3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20085.68375.750044.23913@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (winkler@gnu.org)

> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:27:33 -0500
> From: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@gnu.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
>     emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > But (string-collate-lessp "ä-umlaut" "ö-combine") gives t
> 
> ...not for me, which is likely due to my locale LC_COLLATE=C
> 
> I could use instead, say, LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8.  Then the above
> call of string-collate-lessp yields t.  But this also implies case
> folding and ignoring dots in directory listings, which is not what I
> want.  In other words, these locales have too many features bundled
> together.

You could set LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8 inside Emacs, or even bind it
around the call to string-collate-lessp.  I think we support that on
GNU/Linux.

> > The Unicode Standard mandates that they be handled identically,
> > including in searching and sorting.  We don't yet implement that
> > 100%, but see char-fold.el for a partial (and not very efficient)
> > implementation during search.
> 
> So I would assume that the locale should not matter at all in the
> context of unicode combining characters.

Not entirely true, as some aspects of this equivalence can be
locale-dependent.  See UAX#10 (http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/)
for more about that.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-27  8:40 BibTeX issues Joost Kremers
2019-08-28 17:45 ` Roland Winkler
2019-08-28 18:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29  3:26     ` strip accents and sorting [was: BibTeX issues] Roland Winkler
2019-08-29  6:15       ` martin rudalics
2019-08-30 16:27         ` Roland Winkler
2019-08-30 17:51           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-08-30 18:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-30 19:09               ` Roland Winkler
2019-08-30 19:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-30 19:49                   ` Roland Winkler
2019-08-31  6:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29  7:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-30 16:29         ` Roland Winkler
2019-08-29  7:49   ` BibTeX issues Joost Kremers
2019-08-30 19:18     ` Roland Winkler

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