From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tab bar tabs landed on master Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 22:38:23 +0300 Message-ID: <838spx1x74.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736gci5jn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87zhikp0ba.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87lfu4jbbu.fsf@Ergus.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87tv8myi8m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83imp13ihn.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodhn21l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ftk51ydt.fsf@gnu.org> <87imp1k79d.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="226018"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 06 21:38:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iHCMj-000wia-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 21:38:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36602 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iHCMi-0004oX-1I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56497) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iHCMb-0004oP-Te for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:38:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34826) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iHCMb-00018T-PG; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1545 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iHCMZ-0000vV-95; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:38:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <87imp1k79d.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Sun, 06 Oct 2019 22:23:42 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240672 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 22:23:42 +0300 > > > Does it mean the tab-bar related "C-x 6" prefix conflicts with 2C? If > > so, perhaps we should use "C-x 7" instead, as long as the genie is not > > far from the bottle. > > "C-x 6" is the perfect prefix for tab commands because it's easier to > remember as continuation of the sequence with window prefix "C-x 4" > and frame prefix "C-x 5": I agree, but if "C-x 6" is already used, it's taken. Is it such a catastrophe to use "C-x 7"? > > I'd like to avoid backward-incompatible changes if possible. > > Actually it's not quite backward-incompatible because it's still > available after loading two-column.el. And then the tab-bar commands cannot be invoked via "C-x 6". That's very confusing, I think. We should avoid a situation where 2 core packages fight each other over key bindings. > Also please read this comment in two-column.el that admits it's not mnemonic: > > ;; This one is for historical reasons and simple keyboards, it is not > ;; at all mnemonic. All usual sequences containing 2 were used, and > ;; f2 could not be set up in a standard way under Emacs 18. > (global-set-key "\C-x6" '2C-command) It says nothing about whether people still use it, nor what exactly "simple keyboards" means. Sorry, I still think there's a problem here.