From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs popular again with a video Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 17:18:41 +0300 Message-ID: <838shu61mm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5230692c-c665-a330-7a12-e59fa25d97dd@gmail.com> <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="18366"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: colinetnathan98@gmail.com, andreas.roehler@online.de, rms@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 16:28:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZEr1-0004el-BB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 16:28:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40264 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZEr0-000897-AW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 10:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZEhV-0006Uj-TQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 10:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZEhU-0004VX-G8; Thu, 14 May 2020 10:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3895 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jZEhN-0002LY-B1; Thu, 14 May 2020 10:18:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Tim Cross on Thu, 14 May 2020 17:38:15 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250245 Archived-At: > From: Tim Cross > Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 17:38:15 +1000 > Cc: colinetnathan98@gmail.com, > Andreas Röhler , > Richard Stallman , Emacs developers > > To an extent, the editing aspects of Emacs are not particularly > interesting and most of the really great editing features of Emacs > have been incorporated into other editors anyway I would disagree, at least to some extent. It is true that many Emacs features are available today elsewhere, but some surprisingly still aren't. For example, what about transposing words or lines with one or 2 keystrokes?