From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help' Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 19:45:24 +0200 Message-ID: <838s7hxqkr.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 18:50:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsrr-0003PB-LJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:50:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39702 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsrq-00035O-Eb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsnb-0008Hl-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:45:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsnZ-0004qj-Ft; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:45:38 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4769 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsnY-00085J-Pu; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:45:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 06:06:58 -0600) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265416 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 06:06:58 -0600 > > One of the usability complaints I've heard is that `help-for-help' > (`C-h C-h') could be better organized. I also think some colors could > really help in making it easier to navigate. > > I have attached a rough draft for what an improved version of might look > like. It would be great to get some feedback. Please explain the rationale for the order. It is different from the order in the manual and in the menus, so we should at least discuss it, and that needs some rationale.