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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org
Subject: Re: Opportunistic GC
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:48:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838s6uohv2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBcnxrOaaw-6pC-Yn9GG8Drg+xMZnoz1rX_XUsmP=J=QrQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Pip Cet on Wed, 10 Mar 2021 20:25:04 +0000)

> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 20:25:04 +0000
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > There are other potential complications with this, related to
> > threads.  Posix says 'fork' only copies a single thread, the one that
> > called it, but what if that single thread is not the main thread?
> 
> Why would that be a problem?

Well, I mentioned one aspect that should be considered below.  There
are probably others, as we never intended for one of these threads to
be left alone.  E.g., what about error handling? non-main threads have
a very simplistic one.

> > In
> > Emacs nowadays a non-main Lisp thread can trigger GC.  What happens to
> > the mutexes we use in the threads machinery when we fork like that?
> 
> In the child, they're irrelevant

They are?  Don't you intend to send the results to the parent process?
or read some stuff from the parent?  Doesn't that mean you'd need to
call pselect?

> Everything should be fine...

Famous last words ;-)



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-10 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-08  3:35 Opportunistic GC Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08  7:20 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08  8:26   ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08  9:02     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08  9:51       ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 10:44         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 11:37           ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 12:27             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 18:06               ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 18:24                 ` Concurrent GC via fork (was: Opportunistic GC) Stefan Monnier
2021-03-09  8:10                   ` Concurrent GC via fork martin rudalics
2021-03-10 20:35                 ` Opportunistic GC Pip Cet
2021-03-08 11:38           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-08 12:55             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 14:06             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 14:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:02             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:39                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 16:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 16:35                     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 17:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 16:11                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 14:01   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 15:04     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 15:52       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 16:14         ` Philipp Stephani
2021-03-08 16:18           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 16:40             ` Philipp Stephani
2021-03-08 16:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 17:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-10 20:25             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10 20:48               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-03-11  7:55                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  8:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  9:03                     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  9:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11 10:11                         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11 11:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-09  6:22           ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-09  8:11             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10  5:52               ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-08 14:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 14:57     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-09 13:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-10 20:21         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10 20:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  8:06             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  9:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 16:03   ` Concurrent GC via `fork` (was: Opportunistic GC) Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 16:25     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 17:37       ` Concurrent GC via `fork` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 19:21       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-10 17:18   ` Opportunistic GC Matt Armstrong
2021-03-10 19:38     ` Pip Cet
2022-07-05  1:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-05 13:49     ` T.V Raman

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