From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter api Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 19:28:06 +0300 Message-ID: <838rzgk6ll.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r1f7hydn.fsf@gnu.org> <83lf3zdh4z.fsf@gnu.org> <8965C4A0-79D3-4D77-A6BA-D07A6C93F7FE@gmail.com> <83ilz3cs4k.fsf@gnu.org> <04D19C1A-CD64-4156-B932-1C9FEEE4EC7B@gmail.com> <83zgsebc0r.fsf@gnu.org> <1F752923-F357-4A18-B6E2-0120F1B9BD37@gmail.com> <83fsu5bzem.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgsdad5j.fsf@gnu.org> <83sfy391ni.fsf@gnu.org> <03386E3C-A975-4ECD-BF89-6AC62F751725@gmail.com> <83ilyz8xdl.fsf@gnu.org> <86czp6ukpj.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <1AEED8A5-BF5E-45E5-AE22-9B405A710F9B@gmail.com> <83czp313tf.fsf@gnu.org> <7447C582-70CB-4599-BC76-AD5687D64250@gmail.com> <784947A6-6164-4158-993B-01E881690ADF@gmail.com> <83zgrxji7q.fsf@gnu.org> <8E8D28F9-258E-490B-BF48-7EF8D6CA0817@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33299"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ubolonton@gmail.com, theo@thornhill.no, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, john@yates-sheets.org To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 28 18:28:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVFyJ-0008VF-9U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 18:28:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47338 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVFyI-0004bN-37 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35784) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVFxd-0003u3-Qn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50384) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVFxb-0007qe-BU; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:28:03 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1232 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVFxa-0008Pa-U4; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:28:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8E8D28F9-258E-490B-BF48-7EF8D6CA0817@gmail.com> (message from Yuan Fu on Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:10:32 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275707 Archived-At: > From: Yuan Fu > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:10:32 -0700 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , > Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn , > Theodor Thornhill , > Clément Pit-Claudel , > Emacs developers , > Stephen Leake , > john@yates-sheets.org > > > I don't think I understand the problem: why would you need "not to > > include" tree-sitter.el? We have quite a few *.el files that need > > support from built-ins which could not be available at run time, and > > yet we don't hesitate to include those *.el files. How is this case > > different? I guess some details of what bothers you are missing. > > Nothing in particular except the naive assumption that we won’t provide functions that don’t work. I didn’t know that we have quite a few *.el files that could potentially not work before. Do you have some examples? Examples include native-compilation (comp.el), xwidgets (xwidget.el), and threads (thread.el). > Anyway, I can provide a function tree-sitter-avaliable-p similar to native-compilation, that way a user knows if he can use tree-sitter features. Yes, that's generally what optional packages do.