From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 22:26:00 +0200 Message-ID: <838rxhqmqv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nszpdv.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvswrp8.fsf@gnus.org> <834k88woaj.fsf@gnu.org> <878rxkv980.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvpmtl8.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmqtqvj5.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl2dmnfa.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtlxquh7.fsf@gnu.org> <877dd1mlsd.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0h1qss5.fsf@gnu.org> <8735npmkm5.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7c5qpag.fsf@gnu.org> <87czmtl2uv.fsf@gnus.org> <83fsrpqog1.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnl1jnfa.fsf@gnus.org> <83czmtqnl7.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7c5jmbg.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4634"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 21 21:27:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1motQZ-0000wq-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:27:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motQW-0000y7-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:27:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motPP-0000GG-Qc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:25:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=34008 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motPP-0005tt-Ag; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:25:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=WisebNtko1b24HucK/HZehWMAPcp3ueNpxKKYRgGs9g=; b=SqRon36L+j+t 2qJDUxYxb1lSPJOWVZ6mVWl6mLeEZEebZiTjGx2/Pvk+LN7mxJMTKqCbwucgluPV+4rA7HgTiwh+p 123M7AZxRwLaFfAzcygHtgrGsimXyaos94Mp9i2rZL4HtRP056P1swP1DfO8eGFsVKRODhFV2AZLC QWtnEZomzKfO9DUo0x1xjFl/jmVALiMuChs247xVRaOMpbPJak1O8HYlzxqDvUGNSwlqm9DLIRg33 xku0KVTIkIH9cc01AvZDhyiVt2u6b5ovnFORBbGF620pXwal3KLUA43ElyRi43yyocl34kkRHVx5J bCVMV/A3WFE7n2m9wB/L3Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4808 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1motPO-0003uP-WA; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:25:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87h7c5jmbg.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:17:07 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279887 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:17:07 +0100 > > > They are numbers, so they can change the width because different > > digits have different width. > > No, they don't (in the vast majority of proportional fonts). "Vast majority" is not "all". > The absolute positions of the fields are extremely different from mode > to mode -- in the first one, the name takes half the space, and in the > other one, everything starts a lot nearer to the left. Yes, and I suggest to change that. Each field will start at the same horizontal position. A field that doesn't fit in its allotted cell will be truncated. > So I don't see how we could practically define a fixed-width field mode > line: The mode line formats are pretty different between modes and users > and how you combine different things. Let's consider the standard mode line before we consider extensions. We can talk about extensions later.