From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proportional fonts in the mode line (one month test) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 19:54:13 +0200 Message-ID: <838rxd8mnu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7c1u0cg.fsf@gnus.org> <6ab5879d-8b0b-8205-a8c7-f2c1d61afba2@yandex.ru> <83ee758o4i.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl29wjlf.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40365"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 24 18:55:54 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mpwUr-000AHn-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:55:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55094 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mpwUq-0005xs-Cc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:55:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mpwTT-00059i-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=40978 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mpwTH-0001ZL-9Z; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:54:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=SP69GW4/1Xq0U+PyG1UrP/JJ/ZS2PKb8qwsofVaRIIo=; b=O8jgfu0X4hiGv8vVwcKk 6OhVquU1MUOwmSPpGDDSoobAwtizs0UVlC2ts2r1s7uait7bU4khNA56Lt3P1azC8XIYiVHrxpDdU 0IS9Rgle1/4MaAAFmLPcZ/ySSwQ4sPGppBl4LFsRBbhNJR4JvlJC1wUMOpPPU3Zk5LTIGTIivAS98 ddoddWI8MdZAgBLzXuJv4B63EIKn2dplThQE4TlpISSwn5pv8cgrI7GL9M3QfKfjYQ8rVG7nYX9cG DQka32Xb4XsOrMmi6DlGl+Ie+01Z4SEg7QP7EJjup/0C+cWdcoNZ85NLh2oMaDr0uK4naomm7cuIB v6Zft3vo4sohZA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1186 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mpwTG-0003qN-OL; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:54:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87bl29wjlf.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:26:36 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280034 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:26:36 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Most probably. The font selected here is also but-ugly. It was OK > > for small stretches of text we used variable-pitch until now, but when > > the entire mode line is using it, it's just too much, to my > > (un)liking. > > We should try to pick better proportional fonts, it sounds like. The > fonts picked on Debian and Macos look pretty good to me, so perhaps this > is mostly a problem on Windows? How do we pick better proportional fonts, when we don't want to mention their names in Emacs unless they are free fonts? Windows systems usually don't come with free fonts, and installing such fonts for an unprivileged user becomes harder and harder by the minute in today's paranoid world with its CISO characters covering their butt by denying users even the most elementary access rights to their systems. > > Mine is much uglier. > > Could you post a screenshot? 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