From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sqlite3 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:46:17 +0200 Message-ID: <838rwmjasm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0nr2b4.fsf@gnus.org> <87czlzjfhs.fsf@logand.com> <87pmpznmw4.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6h3jcfm.fsf@logand.com> <87h7bbnjxl.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgp2j1hm.fsf@logand.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14203"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 13:54:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxTnm-0003UA-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:54:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59038 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxTnk-0005uy-Pc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:54:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxTgF-0008A8-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:46:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=47046 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxTgE-0008Kh-1O; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:46:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BpNweBcWgdvW2DwLLQ5noo/KWwAFqS510rqPTKCTSmw=; b=fuBiiiHX5/XZ HyDgp3NNewbZ99KuIrac/H/+UBJmczE0dl2n3bwfU+dwM6Mv3aJVMpY1BdX6aY97dq+4E5QyjsEis 4ERXU3WKf1+0ydrrkLC+VHyCaLsm7+nRLobI6dLsF2ttUsaORBvqsJwJHeirysoH6APKeZEfdtABK ED35b2nRMSDuMSWVrLXUJWWIHuo5frx8gFv1lQmGJ1P8DiN5s+6vIwb7kMUA1TieMA7Wt/wdQVock vKI35j7mA+mhHXMt1Qpc75o+gpsa8fhgA+YmTKkowg7DEPmOcwD+T1ni5Y2pNjncf4GywNMSm6j+D HQ9EXxp0DOEDnVMK3cIFYg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3554 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxTg4-0001TF-US; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:46:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87zgp2j1hm.fsf@logand.com> (message from Tomas Hlavaty on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:55:01 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282028 Archived-At: > From: Tomas Hlavaty > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:55:01 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > But the question is, should a database be in core Emacs? > Should a database be in the Emacs process? We decided it could be a good idea, so yes. Until and unless there's serious evidence, preferably based on actual experience, that it is a bad idea. We are not there yet. > What will be the consequences? Good question. Let's wait and see what are the answers. > The consequences will likely be, that more and more things will not work > without that database. Let's not pretend that we know the consequences, let alone can judge whether they are good or otherwise, before those consequences actually are about to happen, let alone already did. > I am quite curious, how this will turn out. We all are, I think. So let's wait and see. Continued arguing about this, with little or no facts to show, doesn't help us in this regard.